From: Pegasus [MVP] on


"Lem" <lemp40(a)unknownhost> wrote in message
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> Pegasus [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Lem" <lemp40(a)unknownhost> wrote in message
>> news:eHmK7Vw4KHA.4520(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> dave_140390(a)hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Apr 23, 12:50 am, Lem <lemp40(a)unknownhost> wrote:
>>>>> dave_140...(a)hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I have two computers at home: one PC with Windows XP Professional,
>>>>>> another PC with Windows 7 Home Premium. Both PCs are connected to my
>>>>>> ISP's cable modem via a switch.
>>>>>> I would like to share a folder on Windows XP so Windows 7 could read
>>>>>> the files in that folder.
>>>>>> I have shared the directory on Windows XP to "Everyone". A hand
>>>>>> appears under the shared folder, so sharing seems to work.
>>>>>> The question is now:
>>>>>> How do I access the shared folder from Windows 7?
>>>>>> In Windows 7's, under File Manager's "Network", I can see only
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> 7 itself, not Windows XP.
>>>>>> -- dave
>>>>> Connected via "a switch"?
>>>>
>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You have to create a network between the 2 computers. Perhaps you
>>>>> have.
>>>>> You present too little information to tell.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Well:
>>>> * the switch is connected to the IPS's cable modem with an Ethernet
>>>> cable
>>>> * each of the two PCs is connected to the switch with an Ethernet
>>>> cable
>>>>
>>>> The switch is D-Link DES-1005D.
>>>>
>>>> Each of the PCs can access the Internet with this setup.
>>>>
>>>> -- dave
>>>
>>> Many people confuse the terms "switch," "hub," and "router," all of
>>> which do different things. Your DES-1005D is indeed a switch -- and it's
>>> connected to your cable modem which undoubtedly is also a router.
>>>
>>> Lem
>>
>> Is there room for doubt? My cable modem ist just this, a modem, and it
>> requires a separate router in order to provide the hardware firewall
>> functionality that I insist on.
>
> Yes, there is room for doubt.
>
> But *something* assigned at least one of his computers an IP address of
> 192.168.0.2. It's my understanding that if you connected your computer
> directly to your cable modem (which as you point out has security
> disadvantages), your computer would receive its IP address from the ISP's
> headend, and it would be a public IP address (i.e., not 192.168.x.y).
>
> Lem

I fully agree.

From: Lem on
dave_140390(a)hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> On the XP box
>> - right click "My Computer" and select Properties
>> - click the "Computer Name" tab
>> - ensure that the computer is in a Workgroup and not a Domain. If
>> necessary, click the "Change" button and ensure that the radio button
>> next to "Workgroup" is selected.
>> - write down the Workgroup name
>
> I think you found a problem: my XP computer (which my company lends
> me) is in a domain, not in a workgroup. And the "Change..." button is
> greyed, so it seems that I can't put my XP computer in a workgroup.
>
> Now, do you know if there is a way to enable the "Change..." button?
> Perhaps by tweaking the registry?
>
> Note that I do have admin rights.
>
> -- dave

The issue isn't enabling the button, but the problem of sharing files
between a computer in a domain and a computer in a workgroup.

I don't know enough about domains (or Windows 7) to give you a
definitive answer, but my best guess is the following:

It sounds as if you are logging onto to your company XP computer using
your cached domain credentials. What you want to do is to log on as a
local user.

If you don't have a local user account, see:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Create-a-user-account

Once you've logged in to the XP box as a local user, you may have
problems accessing the Internet. If so, change the workgroup name to be
the same as the domain name.

Whether you leave the workgroup at its default or change it to be the
same as the domain name, you'll probably have to change the Win 7
computer's workgroup to match.
--
Lem

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From: dave_140390 on
Hi Lem,

Thank you for the advice.


> If you don't have a local user account, see:
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Create-a-user-account

I added a (local?) user with Control Panel -> Administrative Tools ->
Computer Management -> Local Users and Groups -> Users -> <right
click> -> New User...


> Once you've logged in to the XP box as a local user, you may have
> problems accessing the Internet. If so, change the workgroup name to be
> the same as the domain name.

I logged off: Start -> Shut Down... -> Log off <my current username>.

Then, I logged on as the (local?) user I had just created, by using
<my_computer_name> as the domain.

I did not have problems accessing the Internet as this (local?) user.
At least my browser works fine.


> Whether you leave the workgroup at its default or change it to be the
> same as the domain name, you'll probably have to change the Win 7
> computer's workgroup to match.

What is the workgroup of the (local?) user I just created? How do I
determine it? Note that when I logged as the local user, the system
was asking also for a domain. Does this mean that I am not in a
workgroup (from http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/How-is-a-network-at-home-different-from-one-at-work,
I understand that a computer is either part of a domain or of a
workgroup, but not both)?


-- dave