From: Dewittian on
Excuse my lack of general knowledge but I've never use MIDI in Sonar
to play an external (since 1992). I'm thinking of getting a drum pad
and they look like a better way to assign sounds and input them than
my guitar synth pickup or my simi-weighted keyboard. Actually I hate
trying to play drums from a keyboard. I remember the days of the
first drum machine Roland put out and how happy I was when the RX9
drum machine came out.

The padkontrol is a lot more expensive than the nanopad and I don't
need live I only record 1 track at a time. These pads have their own
software so I'm wondering if I would have to sync them to Sonar while
I input the MIDI or if I could put the MIDI data including controllers
directly into a sonar MIDI track using one of my Kontakt 4 samples?

Also, since I only have 1 MIDI input on my M-audio interface could I
use that ACT function in Sonar to record several(say 8) MIDI tracks at
a time? Though it might be easier to use one Sonars' drum machines
(though I'd have to learn another software when I'd rather just get it
set up and play it it real time with quantize input on) instead of
using VST to Kontakt? I could probably use a Kontakts' drum sample in
the Sonar environment but I'm not sure if it would work and sound as
realistic as playing the Kontakt sample in its' player?

Any help or advice would be appreciated?
From: "Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette" on
Dewittian wrote:
> Excuse my lack of general knowledge but I've never use MIDI in Sonar
> to play an external (since 1992). I'm thinking of getting a drum pad
> and they look like a better way to assign sounds and input them than
> my guitar synth pickup or my simi-weighted keyboard. Actually I hate
> trying to play drums from a keyboard. I remember the days of the
> first drum machine Roland put out and how happy I was when the RX9
> drum machine came out.
>
> The padkontrol is a lot more expensive than the nanopad and I don't
> need live I only record 1 track at a time. These pads have their own
> software so I'm wondering if I would have to sync them to Sonar while
> I input the MIDI or if I could put the MIDI data including controllers
> directly into a sonar MIDI track using one of my Kontakt 4 samples?
>
> Also, since I only have 1 MIDI input on my M-audio interface could I
> use that ACT function in Sonar to record several(say 8) MIDI tracks at
> a time? Though it might be easier to use one Sonars' drum machines
> (though I'd have to learn another software when I'd rather just get it
> set up and play it it real time with quantize input on) instead of
> using VST to Kontakt? I could probably use a Kontakts' drum sample in
> the Sonar environment but I'm not sure if it would work and sound as
> realistic as playing the Kontakt sample in its' player?
>
> Any help or advice would be appreciated?
Neither of these instruments are drum machines. They have no internal
sounds and inputting drum tracks with them would be no different than
using a midi keyboard controller except for the gum rubber pads on them.

--
Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette

http://www.gatortraks.com/forum
http://www.gatortraks.com
From: Dewittian on
On Jul 31, 5:56 pm, "Dave \"Mod Bod\" Modisette"
<dmodise...(a)gatortraks.com> wrote:
> Dewittian wrote:
> > Excuse my lack of general knowledge but I've never use MIDI in Sonar
> > to play an external (since 1992).  I'm thinking of getting a drum pad
> > and they look like a better way to assign sounds and input them than
> > my guitar synth pickup or my simi-weighted keyboard.  Actually I hate
> > trying to play drums from a keyboard.  I remember the days of the
> > first drum machine Roland put out and how happy I was when the RX9
> > drum machine came out.
>
> > The padkontrol is a lot more expensive than the nanopad and I don't
> > need live I only record 1 track at a time.  These pads have their own
> > software so I'm wondering if I would have to sync them to Sonar while
> > I input the MIDI or if I could put the MIDI data including controllers
> > directly into a sonar MIDI track using one of my Kontakt 4 samples?
>
> > Also, since I only have 1 MIDI input on my M-audio interface could I
> > use that ACT function in Sonar to record several(say 8) MIDI tracks at
> > a time?  Though it might be easier to use one Sonars' drum machines
> > (though I'd have to learn another software when I'd rather just get it
> > set up and play it it real time with quantize input on) instead of
> > using VST to Kontakt?  I could probably use a Kontakts' drum sample in
> > the Sonar environment but I'm not sure if it would work and sound as
> > realistic as playing the Kontakt sample in its' player?
>
> > Any help or advice would be appreciated?
>
> Neither of these instruments are drum machines.  They have no internal
> sounds and inputting drum tracks with them would be no different than
> using a midi keyboard controller except for the gum rubber pads on them.
>
> --
> Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette
>
> http://www.gatortraks.com/forumhttp://www.gatortraks.com


So they use the USB and software to get power and control output that
is sent through a separate MIDI out?
From: "Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette" on
Dewittian wrote:
> On Jul 31, 5:56 pm, "Dave \"Mod Bod\" Modisette"
> <dmodise...(a)gatortraks.com> wrote:
>> Dewittian wrote:
>>> Excuse my lack of general knowledge but I've never use MIDI in Sonar
>>> to play an external (since 1992). I'm thinking of getting a drum pad
>>> and they look like a better way to assign sounds and input them than
>>> my guitar synth pickup or my simi-weighted keyboard. Actually I hate
>>> trying to play drums from a keyboard. I remember the days of the
>>> first drum machine Roland put out and how happy I was when the RX9
>>> drum machine came out.
>>> The padkontrol is a lot more expensive than the nanopad and I don't
>>> need live I only record 1 track at a time. These pads have their own
>>> software so I'm wondering if I would have to sync them to Sonar while
>>> I input the MIDI or if I could put the MIDI data including controllers
>>> directly into a sonar MIDI track using one of my Kontakt 4 samples?
>>> Also, since I only have 1 MIDI input on my M-audio interface could I
>>> use that ACT function in Sonar to record several(say 8) MIDI tracks at
>>> a time? Though it might be easier to use one Sonars' drum machines
>>> (though I'd have to learn another software when I'd rather just get it
>>> set up and play it it real time with quantize input on) instead of
>>> using VST to Kontakt? I could probably use a Kontakts' drum sample in
>>> the Sonar environment but I'm not sure if it would work and sound as
>>> realistic as playing the Kontakt sample in its' player?
>>> Any help or advice would be appreciated?
>> Neither of these instruments are drum machines. They have no internal
>> sounds and inputting drum tracks with them would be no different than
>> using a midi keyboard controller except for the gum rubber pads on them.
>>
>> --
>> Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette
>>
>> http://www.gatortraks.com/forumhttp://www.gatortraks.com
>
>
> So they use the USB and software to get power and control output that
> is sent through a separate MIDI out?
Midi out meaning the midi data from the Nanopad to your DAW midi input.
Some of them are powered by USB. If there is an alternate 9V power
input, I usually use that to keep from overtaxing my computer's power
supply.

--
Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette

http://www.gatortraks.com/forum
http://www.gatortraks.com
From: Dewittian on
On Jul 31, 7:58 pm, "Dave \"Mod Bod\" Modisette"
<dmodise...(a)gatortraks.com> wrote:
> Dewittian wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 5:56 pm, "Dave \"Mod Bod\" Modisette"
> > <dmodise...(a)gatortraks.com> wrote:
> >> Dewittian wrote:
> >>> Excuse my lack of general knowledge but I've never use MIDI in Sonar
> >>> to play an external (since 1992).  I'm thinking of getting a drum pad
> >>> and they look like a better way to assign sounds and input them than
> >>> my guitar synth pickup or my simi-weighted keyboard.  Actually I hate
> >>> trying to play drums from a keyboard.  I remember the days of the
> >>> first drum machine Roland put out and how happy I was when the RX9
> >>> drum machine came out.
> >>> The padkontrol is a lot more expensive than the nanopad and I don't
> >>> need live I only record 1 track at a time.  These pads have their own
> >>> software so I'm wondering if I would have to sync them to Sonar while
> >>> I input the MIDI or if I could put the MIDI data including controllers
> >>> directly into a sonar MIDI track using one of my Kontakt 4 samples?
> >>> Also, since I only have 1 MIDI input on my M-audio interface could I
> >>> use that ACT function in Sonar to record several(say 8) MIDI tracks at
> >>> a time?  Though it might be easier to use one Sonars' drum machines
> >>> (though I'd have to learn another software when I'd rather just get it
> >>> set up and play it it real time with quantize input on) instead of
> >>> using VST to Kontakt?  I could probably use a Kontakts' drum sample in
> >>> the Sonar environment but I'm not sure if it would work and sound as
> >>> realistic as playing the Kontakt sample in its' player?
> >>> Any help or advice would be appreciated?
> >> Neither of these instruments are drum machines.  They have no internal
> >> sounds and inputting drum tracks with them would be no different than
> >> using a midi keyboard controller except for the gum rubber pads on them.
>
> >> --
> >> Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette
>
> >>http://www.gatortraks.com/forumhttp://www.gatortraks.com
>
> > So they use the USB and software to get power and control output that
> > is sent through a separate MIDI out?
>
> Midi out meaning the midi data from the Nanopad to your DAW midi input.
>   Some of them are powered by USB. If there is an alternate 9V power
> input, I usually use that to keep from overtaxing my computer's power
> supply.
>
> --
> Dave "Mod Bod" Modisette
>
> http://www.gatortraks.com/forumhttp://www.gatortraks.com

Thanks for the tip about power supply.

I have a teribyte drive for backup. I leave it on always and it shows
up as a mapped drive in explorer but the settings put it to sleep
until I click on it in explorer . ( 3 physical drives and the second
one partitioned I have the programs on the main C drive.

The second is partitioned with all my samples on 1 partition and
sonar files on another partition.


.. It would be a hassle to unplug the USB drive when I'm not using
it. Do you think that drive might use resources when sleeping?

The only time I have drop-outs is when I'm mixing and have all the
vst, reverb EQ etc... So I bounce all tracks to audio tracks picking
up all the effects to track each track. Then I work from the new
file.

The problem is that any more changes to the final mix on audio tracks
don't get saved to the old file with the MIDI tracks so I can change
samples. By the time I'm finished my file is significantly changed on
the new file with on the audio tracks.

Does anyone know a way to take a audio track and convert it to MIDI?

That way I can switch samples and bounce to track again and be done.
Of course i'd have to do it in the file that still runs on MIDI or
loose the effects when I bounce.

Does anybody out there have some advice on my creative process?

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