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From: Daniel /DD on 4 May 2010 09:42
Hi there,

after a recent XP crash and reboot 8b05 starts as a new installation.
Mailboxes, address book, account settings etc. (once imported from
Eudora 6) are gone. The data itself is still there. Plus, I have a
recent backup (Acronis TrueImage). So far, I have restored my Programs
\Eudora and the Application Data\Thunderbird folders - unsuccessfully.
Turning back to Eudora 6 (sandboxed) gave me only the data of 2006,
when I first installed Eudora 8.

What else would I have to restore to get Eudora working again. Or,
even better, can I somehow export the mailboxes and kick Eudora 8 ?
All my mail sits on my HD and I can't access it. Horrible !

If anybody has a hint for me, please tell me.

TIA, Daniel
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_Ekl=F6f?= on 5 May 2010 15:19
Daniel /DD <dsittner(a)gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> after a recent XP crash and reboot 8b05 starts as a new installation.
> Mailboxes, address book, account settings etc. (once imported from
> Eudora 6) are gone. The data itself is still there. Plus, I have a

What doe you mean by "The data itself is still there."?
The data *is* maiboxes, address book(s), account setings &c.


> recent backup (Acronis TrueImage). So far, I have restored my Programs
> \Eudora and the Application Data\Thunderbird folders - unsuccessfully.
> Turning back to Eudora 6 (sandboxed) gave me only the data of 2006,
> when I first installed Eudora 8.
>
> What else would I have to restore to get Eudora working again. Or,
> even better, can I somehow export the mailboxes and kick Eudora 8 ?
> All my mail sits on my HD and I can't access it. Horrible !
>
> If anybody has a hint for me, please tell me.

Here's my guess (from former experience as IT support):

When you reinstall XP the system disregards all previous accounts.
At best the account folders are still present (and untouched) in the
C:\Documents and Settings folders.
All references to them are gone however.

If your old account name was Daniel, and you create a new account with
the name Daniel, the system will silently notice that the folder name is
taken, and create a new folder named Daniel.WINDOWS or Daniel.000
or some other variation of that theme. That is where all of your new
settings.

Old settings and data are still in C:\Documents and Settings\Daniel.
You should be able to recover tham simply by moving or copying the
folders (including all hidden folders like Application Data !!!) to your
new account folder.

Be careful to *copy* the settings rather than moving them, as many
settings files may contain direct references to the old location.

You'll need to log out and for all setting to stick.

Don't move everything at once - if something breaks down it can be
extremely messy to find out what went wrong, and it's messy enough as it
already is.


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From: Daniel /DD on 6 May 2010 15:43
Hi Ian,

thanks for answering.

On 5 Mai, 11:48, Ian Anderson <a...(a)127.0.0.1.invalid> wrote:
> I suspect you may have installed programs on the same partition as your
> operating system?

Yes (older Eudora installations used to sit on another drive, but that
was then).


> I've never used Opera 8 but try this:
>
> Create a 10 GB partition called D:\drive or even a new folder on C:\
> Such as C:\Eudora (or what ever)
> Create a folder D:\Eudora or what ever on D:\drive.
> Whichever folder you decide to create, copy your Eudora program & data
> to it then reinstall Eudora in that folder.
>
> Wish you luck, let us know how you go.

Will try and report. Thanks

Bye,
Daniel
From: Daniel /DD on 6 May 2010 16:06
Hi Anders,

thank You for Your answer.


On 5 Mai, 21:19, andekl_no(a)saaf_spam.se (Anders Eklöf) wrote:
> What doe you mean by "The data itself is still there."?
> The data *is* maiboxes, address book(s), account setings &c.

Yes. XP was hanging so I pushed the reboot (physical) button. It
rebooted without running chdsk or offering safe mode, no files - as
far as I could judge from other programs that went down with that hang/
reboot - were lost in that crash. When looking at the \Eudora
directory, everything seemed all right. Eudora 8 would start, but not
find any settings and thus act as if newly installed.
So now I have to say that i believe that no files were lost, but You
are obviously right to question that. Where does Eudora 8 store its
data ? I did see a lot of .toc and .mbx files, but those may have been
from the previous Eudora 6 installatin (sorry I cannot check the file
dates now as I'm at home and the problem regards my work computer). I
will check tomorrow.


> Here's my guess (from former experience as IT support):
>
> When you reinstall XP the system disregards all previous accounts.
> At best the account folders are still present (and untouched) in the
> C:\Documents and Settings folders.
> All references to them are gone however.

I put that wrong, sorry; I did not reinstall XP, all user accounts are
unchanged.

> Be careful to *copy* the settings rather than moving them, as many
> settings files may contain direct references to the old location.

> Don't move everything at once - if something breaks down it can be
> extremely messy to find out what went wrong, and it's messy enough as it
> already is.

That's a FINE mess that You got us in, Stanley .......

Bye,
Daniel
From: John H Meyers on 7 May 2010 10:16
On 5/6/2010 3:06 PM, Daniel /DD wrote:

> Where does Eudora 8 store its data ?

In a Thunderbird "profile" (because "E8" is an enhanced Thunderbird)

> I did see a lot of .toc and .mbx files,
> but those may have been from the previous Eudora 6 installation

Indeed they are; Thunderbird (and thus E8) do not use those filename extensions.

Default locations for TB under XP (perhaps slightly different
if TB had never been installed?) would be under
"C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Thunderbird"
(or under a similar E8 folder if there's no "Thunderbird"?)

In which file "profiles.ini" would identify the specific current profile
by its "relative" path, usually within a "Profiles" subfolder of the above.

The mail itself would normally be
under the specific current profile,
under a "Mail" subfolder of that,
in account subfolders of that,
with mailbox "message" files having no extension,
mailbox "index" data files having extension ".msf"
and mailbox "subfolders" (if any) having extension ".sbd"

"How To Manage Profiles"
http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile

"Profile Manager"
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager

"Using Multiple Profiles"
http://support.mozillamessaging.com/bg/kb/Using+Multiple+Profiles

Note how TB documentation is so well dispersed :)

You could try starting the built-in "profile manager" via command line:
drive:\....\Eudora[8].exe -ProfileManager

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