From: BURT on
On Nov 29, 5:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. >
>
> > No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object.  A
> > "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material
> > that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the
> > very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc
> > are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active
> > property: "It presses back".  Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly
> > directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills,
> > the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will
> > be.
> >  Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the
> > "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function
> > of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad
> > d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms
> > comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not
> > it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per
> > atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.)
> >  Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the
> > shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom.
> >  Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the
> > gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that
> > causative object.  Given that the pressure increases as the density
> > does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward
> > the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt
> > Earth.
>
> > >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits >
>
> >   Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the
> > other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from
> > its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material
> > comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient
> > in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall.
> > Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the
> > path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a
> > slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2."
>
> >  The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
> > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
> > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
> > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
> > and matter is energy. >>
>
> >   Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon
> > matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could
> > be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the
> > matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained,
> > thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero.
> >   The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be
> > converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a
> > force not a material.
>
> > glird
>
> The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the reactive
> aether pressure will be.
>
> The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists
> prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit. The aether displacement
> wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed
> behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a
> function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether
> displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the
> C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The aether wave of an atom is its vibration.

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on
On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. >
>
> No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object.  A
> "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material
> that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the
> very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc
> are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active
> property: "It presses back".  Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly
> directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills,
> the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will
> be.
>  Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the
> "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function
> of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad
> d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms
> comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not
> it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per
> atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.)
>  Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the
> shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom.
>  Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the
> gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that
> causative object.  Given that the pressure increases as the density
> does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward
> the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt
> Earth.
>
> >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits >
>
>   Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the
> other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from
> its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material
> comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient
> in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall.
> Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the
> path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a
> slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2."
>
>  The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
> exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
> aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
> dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
> and matter is energy. >>
>
>   Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon
> matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could
> be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the
> matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained,
> thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero.
>   The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be
> converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a
> force not a material.
>
> glird

glird,

The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the reactive
aether pressure will be.

The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists
prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit. The aether displacement
wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed
behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a
function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether
displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the
C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits.

Thanks for adding value to this topic.

mpc755
From: YBM on
mpc755 wrote:
> Thanks for adding value to this topic.

He's not. Neither you are.
From: mpc755 on
On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. >

> No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object. A
> "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material
> that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the
> very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc
> are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active
> property: "It presses back". Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly
> directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills,
> the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will
> be.
> Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the
> "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function
> of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad
> d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms
> comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not
> it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per
> atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.)
> Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the
> shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom.
> Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the
> gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that
> causative object. Given that the pressure increases as the density
> does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward
> the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt
> Earth.

> >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits >

> Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the
> other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from
> its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material
> comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient
> in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall.
> Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the
> path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a
> slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2."

> The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
> exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
> aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
> dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
> and matter is energy. >>

> Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon
> matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could
> be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the
> matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained,
> thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero.
> The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be
> converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a
> force not a material.

> glird

glird,

The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the reactive
aether pressure will be.

The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists
prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit. The aether displacement
wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed
behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a
function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether
displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the
C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits.

Thanks for adding value to this topic.

mpc755
From: BURT on
On Nov 29, 5:56 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. >
> > No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object.  A
> > "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material
> > that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the
> > very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc
> > are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active
> > property: "It presses back".  Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly
> > directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills,
> > the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will
> > be.
> >  Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the
> > "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function
> > of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad
> > d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms
> > comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not
> > it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per
> > atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.)
> >  Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the
> > shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom.
> >  Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the
> > gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that
> > causative object.  Given that the pressure increases as the density
> > does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward
> > the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt
> > Earth.
> > >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits >
> >   Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the
> > other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from
> > its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material
> > comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient
> > in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall.
> > Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the
> > path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a
> > slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2."
> >  The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer
> > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as
> > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three
> > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether
> > and matter is energy. >>
> >   Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon
> > matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could
> > be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the
> > matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained,
> > thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero.
> >   The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be
> > converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a
> > force not a material.
> > glird
>
> glird,
>
> The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the reactive
> aether pressure will be.
>
> The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists
> prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit. The aether displacement
> wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed
> behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a
> function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether
> displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the
> C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits.
>
> Thanks for adding value to this topic.
>
> mpc755- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Aether flows over energy. Aether and energy are together with space in
unification.

Mitch Raemsch