Avoid ATI PCI Express (3GIO) Filter Driver update for Vista
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From: realcestmoi on 16 Nov 2007 10:18 Hi There Go to www.amd.com to get your ati drivers, Microsoft is the wrong place for an updated driver IF needed. Best regards, Michel Denie "PKlammer" <PKlammer(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ED3B3CA5-BE71-4D81-8F65-B577183DF951(a)microsoft.com... > Windows Update is a Valuable Service, yes or no? > It's part of what we expect we're paying for when we install non-shareware > OS. > I furthermore expect anything from the Windows Update pipeline to be at > least benign, if not beneficial; also self-limiting if attempted in > inappropriate context. > > On my system, (On Windows Vista Home Premium, Acer Aspire AST690-UD214A, > Display adapter = onboard Intel 946GZ Express Chipset Family, ...) onboard > display driver was "crowded out" by the ATI PCI Express (3GIO) Filter > Driver; > Device Manager show the Yellow Bang (!) and "resource conflict -- must > remove > some other device" [inexact wording.] > > "realcestmoi" wrote: > >> Hi there, as any a little experienced user knows taking driver updates >> from >> windows update is optional and only recommanded for Microsoft hardware >> drivers, other drivers if needed ( if it ain,t broke do not try to fix >> it) >> should be taken from the manufacturers webiste. >> >> Best regards, >> Michel Denie >> >> "Rich" <Rich(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:D5500C21-3796-43D1-9FB5-D83707065DC8(a)microsoft.com... >> > ATI PCI Express (3GIO) Filter Driver >> > Installed, reboot and blue screen of death, reboots and blue screens. >> > Had to use the Vista DVD repair option to use system restore. >> > >> > REMOVE THIS UPDATE FROM WINDOWS UPDATE!!! >> > >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:258 1104 dc0 AU ## START ## AU: Search for updates >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:258 1104 dc0 AU ######### >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:261 1104 dc0 AU <<## SUBMITTED ## AU: Search for >> > updates >> > [CallId = {269C02BF-C26D-4A8B-8AAD-DD788B554F5A}] >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:261 1104 d98 Agent ************* >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:261 1104 d98 Agent ** START ** Agent: Finding >> > updates >> > [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates] >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:261 1104 d98 Agent ********* >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:261 1104 d98 Agent * Online = No; Ignore download >> > priority = No >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:261 1104 d98 Agent * Criteria = "IsInstalled=0 >> > and >> > DeploymentAction='Installation' or IsPresent=1 and >> > DeploymentAction='Uninstallation' or IsInstalled=1 and >> > DeploymentAction='Installation' and RebootRequired=1 or IsInstalled=0 >> > and >> > DeploymentAction='Uninstallation' and RebootRequired=1" >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:36:261 1104 d98 Agent * ServiceID = >> > {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:37:504 1104 c44 AU WARNING: Returning due to error >> > from >> > GetDownloadProgressUx, error = 0x8024000C >> > 2007-11-15 11:44:37:504 1104 c44 AU WARNING: >> > GetInteractiveInstallProgress >> > failed, error = 0x8024000C >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:21:320 1104 dc0 AU AU received handle event >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:28:461 1104 dc0 Shutdwn user declined update at >> > shutdown >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:28:461 1104 dc0 AU AU initiates service shutdown >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:28:462 1104 dc0 AU ########### AU: Uninitializing >> > Automatic Updates ########### >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:33:935 1104 d98 Agent * WARNING: Exit code = >> > 0x8024000B >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:33:935 1104 d98 Agent ********* >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:33:935 1104 d98 Agent ** END ** Agent: Finding >> > updates >> > [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates] >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:33:935 1104 d98 Agent ************* >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:33:935 1104 d98 Agent WARNING: WU client failed >> > Searching >> > for update with error 0x8024000b >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:33:971 1104 dc0 Report REPORT EVENT: >> > {3D7C8754-4A61-47CB-8840-8AA93B835039} 2007-11-15 >> > 11:44:35:589-0800 1 184 101 {36BCAEF8-144A-40CC-9311-F78F00A614C0} 100 >> > 0 >> > AutomaticUpdates Success Content >> > Install Installation successful and restart required for the following >> > update: ATI Technogies Inc - Other Hardware - ATI PCI Express (3GIO) >> > Filter >> > Driver >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:33:971 1104 dc0 Report REPORT EVENT: >> > {00C2926C-037F-4F60-AA72-A7DCD9CDB8E5} 2007-11-15 >> > 11:44:35:609-0800 1 193 102 {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} 0 0 >> > AutomaticUpdates Success Content >> > Install Restart Required: To complete the installation of the following >> > updates, the computer must be restarted. Until this computer has been >> > restarted, Windows cannot search for or download new updates: - ATI >> > Technogies Inc - Other Hardware - ATI PCI Express (3GIO) Filter Driver >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:34:488 1104 dc0 Service ********* >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:34:488 1104 dc0 Service ** END ** Service: Service >> > exit >> > [Exit code = 0x240001] >> > 2007-11-15 11:45:34:488 1104 dc0 Service ************* >> > >> > ---------------- >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the >> > "I >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow >> > this >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and >> > then >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane. >> > >> > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.mspx?mid=d5500c21-3796-43d1-9fb5-d83707065dc8&dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate >> >> >>
From: Shenan Stanley on 16 Nov 2007 10:56 realcestmoi wrote: > As any a little experienced user knows taking driver > updates from windows update is optional and only recommanded for > Microsoft hardware drivers, other drivers if needed ( if it ain,t > broke do not try to fix it) should be taken from the manufacturers > webiste. PKlammer wrote: > Windows Update is a Valuable Service, yes or no? > > It's part of what we expect we're paying for when we install > non-shareware OS. I furthermore expect anything from the Windows > Update pipeline to be at > least benign, if not beneficial; also self-limiting if attempted in > inappropriate context. > > On my system, (On Windows Vista Home Premium, Acer Aspire > AST690-UD214A, Display adapter = onboard Intel 946GZ Express > Chipset Family, ...) onboard display driver was "crowded out" by > the ATI PCI Express (3GIO) Filter Driver; Device Manager show the > Yellow Bang (!) and "resource conflict -- must remove some other > device" [inexact wording.] Valuable service - yes. Perfect - no. It has been explained before - many times - on these newsgroups by many different people that relying on the Windows Updates for hardware drivers should *not* be done. The hardware drivers that appear there have to be submitted to Microsoft by the hardware vendors anyway. They have to pay for the priviledge to have them placed there. There is also a process through which the drivers to be placed there have to go through to get the 'logo'/'certified'. That all takes time. By the time it is done - usually several releases from the manufacturer have passed by - sometimes solving issues with that original driver, sometimes just new features, sometimes nothing major. Due to the fact that the driver provided by Microsoft's updates for products that are non-Microsoft can be older than 'the latest' -> it's usually better *not* to take the chance. Just because it passed through whatever 'process' to get the logo/certification does not mean there are not problems with it - problems that the manufacturer may have found and repaired in later versions of the driver that they have chosen not to pay Microsoft to test/certify/put up for them. The Microsoft update process is (surprisingly - like everything else) not perfect. Things can and will go wrong - particularly when you throw in the pure number of variables you speak of when talking about computers and changing things across millions of them. You can help limit exposure to problems a bit by changing the downloads to something more manual where possible or getting the updates manually completely and reading about them first. The suggestions in these newsgroups about hardware drivers have almost always been the same: - Don't update hardware drivers unless it fixes something (or you think it might fix something) you are actually having trouble with (or if you just have to have the new feature it might have in it.) - When updating hardware drivers - get them from the manufacturer of said hardware. If Microsoft had nothing to do with the creation or support of the hardware originally - why trust them for it now? If you had an Intel video card, and knew it - why would you download an ATI driver? Especially if it was an optional update and you had to choose to do so? -- Shenan Stanley MS-MVP -- How To Ask Questions The Smart Way http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
From: Dollarweed on 16 Nov 2007 22:17 Thanks Superraccoon, Your instructions worked fine on my computer. After folowing your steps I had to reboot my computer 3 times, then presto, everything was normal again. Again, thanks for posting the computer fix. -- Dollarweed ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dollarweed's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=35234 View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=853247 http://forums.techarena.in
From: allstarrob on 17 Nov 2007 10:39 Dollarweed;3316151 Wrote: > Thanks Superraccoon, > Your instructions worked fine on my computer. After folowing your > steps I had to reboot my computer 3 times, then presto, everything was > normal again. Again, thanks for posting the computer fix. Can someone e-mail me specific instructions how to fix problem (delete) ATI PCI Express 3GIO FilterDriver update for Vista that effected my video screen etc.. Much appreciated! send to allstarrob(a)aol.com -- allstarrob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ allstarrob's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=35275 View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=853247 http://forums.techarena.in
From: dracotonisamond on 17 Nov 2007 14:49
superraccoon is correct but some people will have a slight problem with the proccess. in some cases usb devices such as mice, and\or keyboards will not function at all. with my legacy-free system(one without ps/2 keyboard and mouse ports, serial ports etc...) i found myself up a river without a paddle. but... i found that my mic still worked so i performed the same proccess without control devices. so if you so happen to have voice control activated and a working mic you have a way out. but if microsoft never had this problem none of us would be screwed. "superraccoon" wrote: > > Had the same problem. Fortunately, the solution is fairly simple: Go to > device manager, open 'System Devices', right-click on the offending > driver and select 'Uninstall'. Marvel as dozens of drivers will stop > working... but Windows re-installs them without much of a problem, and > - in my case - after 2 restarts, the situation was back to normal. > Hope this helps! > > > -- > superraccoon > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > superraccoon's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/member.php?userid=35140 > View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=853247 > > http://forums.techarena.in > > |