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From: Mark Bestley on 11 Aug 2010 03:45 David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone noticed how slow video and audio now loads on the new BBC > > > > news website? It's less noticeable with faster machines. My 2 year old > > > > macbook is OK- though it's a bit slower than before. With my 4 year old > > > > macbook, it's useless really. Takes up to a minute for a 2 minute video > > > > to load. Even this page takes a minute- > > > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10928238 > > > > > > Just an added note. It takes about a minute for BBC News 24 to load > > > clicking on the link- but only around 6-8 seconds if using the direct > > > link via iplayer. I really don't think it's the computer that's the > > > problem here... > > > > Any time I have trouble like that, I try a different Web browser. > > > > Never got the bottom of it, but it seems to help sometimes. > > > > I select from: > > > > Firefox > > Safari > > iCab > > Opera > > OmniWeb > > Camino > > > > in (roughly) that order. > > I'd tried 3 of those already, but you got me thinking, so I fired up > virtual XP (via VirtualBox) and what do you know? Explorer on XP works > in a third of the time. So, whatever the problem is, it's not just the > processor speed. (I note that faster macs will have less of a problem.) Try stopping flash - thinks load much quicker. Wiyj Falsh on you can see the CPU pegged at 100% for some time. *Falsh on Macs is much worse rthan on Windows although I have not tried the newwst release) -- Mark
From: David Horne on 11 Aug 2010 04:15 Mark Bestley <news{@bestley.co.uk> wrote: [] > Try stopping flash - thinks load much quicker. Wiyj Falsh on you can see > the CPU pegged at 100% for some time. *Falsh on Macs is much worse rthan > on Windows although I have not tried the newwst release) I'm aware of the problems with Flash, but as that's what the BBC website uses, and I do want to do things like listen to radio/watch video, I'm stuck with it. The problem here is that whatever the BBC did to their news website, it sucks on older macs like mine. It's annoying because for all the problems with Flash, I don't use any other websites as problematic as this. It's interesting that it doesn't affect the iplayer for example. The fact that they are still using Flash in a major upgrade of the website would suggest that the BBC aren't planning on dumping it for alternatives soon. I think the solution at the moment is to use Chrome for the BBC news website, as it's interface isn't affected like Safari or Firefox, even if video takes as long to load. The fact that I can get virtual windows to run it faster than OS X is a bit of a joke. -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
From: Mark on 11 Aug 2010 04:34 On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:15:47 +0100, David Horne wrote (in article <1jn1yu7.qt2wah79avqyN%d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk>): > Mark Bestley <news{@bestley.co.uk> wrote: > > [] >> Try stopping flash - thinks load much quicker. Wiyj Falsh on you can see >> the CPU pegged at 100% for some time. *Falsh on Macs is much worse rthan >> on Windows although I have not tried the newwst release) > > I'm aware of the problems with Flash, but as that's what the BBC website > uses, and I do want to do things like listen to radio/watch video, I'm > stuck with it. The problem here is that whatever the BBC did to their > news website, it sucks on older macs like mine. It's annoying because > for all the problems with Flash, I don't use any other websites as > problematic as this. It's interesting that it doesn't affect the iplayer > for example. > > The fact that they are still using Flash in a major upgrade of the > website would suggest that the BBC aren't planning on dumping it for > alternatives soon. > > I think the solution at the moment is to use Chrome for the BBC news > website, as it's interface isn't affected like Safari or Firefox, even > if video takes as long to load. The fact that I can get virtual windows > to run it faster than OS X is a bit of a joke. > There are some user scripts here <http://userscripts.org/scripts/search?q=bbc&x=0&y=0> which might help. Mark
From: Woody on 11 Aug 2010 04:43 David Horne <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Mark Bestley <news{@bestley.co.uk> wrote: > > [] >> Try stopping flash - thinks load much quicker. Wiyj Falsh on you can > > see >> the CPU pegged at 100% for some time. *Falsh on Macs is much worse > > rthan >> on Windows although I have not tried the newwst release) > > I'm aware of the problems with Flash, but as that's what the BBC > website > uses, and I do want to do things like listen to radio/watch video, I'm > stuck with it. The problem here is that whatever the BBC did to their > news website, it sucks on older macs like mine. It's annoying because > for all the problems with Flash, I don't use any other websites as > problematic as this. It's interesting that it doesn't affect the > iplayer > for example. > > The fact that they are still using Flash in a major upgrade of the > website would suggest that the BBC aren't planning on dumping it for > alternatives soon. Well, they must have that data somewhere as the iPad version of BBC news is quick, responsive and full of video, and the ipad is both less powerful than most macs and without flash. -- Woody
From: David Horne on 11 Aug 2010 07:58
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > David Horne <d4g4h4(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Mark Bestley <news{@bestley.co.uk> wrote: > > > > [] > >> Try stopping flash - thinks load much quicker. Wiyj Falsh on you can > > > see > >> the CPU pegged at 100% for some time. *Falsh on Macs is much worse > > > rthan > >> on Windows although I have not tried the newwst release) > > > > I'm aware of the problems with Flash, but as that's what the BBC > > website > > uses, and I do want to do things like listen to radio/watch video, I'm > > stuck with it. The problem here is that whatever the BBC did to their > > news website, it sucks on older macs like mine. It's annoying because > > for all the problems with Flash, I don't use any other websites as > > problematic as this. It's interesting that it doesn't affect the > > iplayer > > for example. > > > > The fact that they are still using Flash in a major upgrade of the > > website would suggest that the BBC aren't planning on dumping it for > > alternatives soon. > > Well, they must have that data somewhere as the iPad version of BBC news > is quick, responsive and full of video, and the ipad is both less > powerful than most macs and without flash. They do, but they're not using it. Similarly, the iphone/ipod version works very well indeed. But, as I said before, this not just about flash, as the web iplayer (which uses it) works very well. It's simply a frustration that this particular element (flash video/audio via the 'new' news website) is working so poorly on older macs. -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "[Do you think the world learned anything from the first world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009) |