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From: BillW50 on 27 Jun 2010 12:28 In news:nime26pqnm2thu77j6c1kbj5tf5lhnqd9g(a)4ax.com, WaIIy typed on Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:04:39 -0400: > On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:18:46 -0500, "BillW50" <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >> Well I like many others have used Acronis True Image because many >> swear by it. Although some of us have had lots of trouble with >> Acronis True Image. And last year, I wrote a number of pages of >> information that I believe users should know about. When it works, >> it works great. But Acronis doesn't really care about customer >> support or problems that has been there version after version. > > I use Casper, no problems at all and a log file is generated each > time. Hi Wally! I have used many backup programs but Casper wasn't one of them. I have used and paid for many like Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image, Paragon, etc. And what strangely works the best is something really simple like BartPE which comes with A43 file manager. And just boot BartPE on CD, flash drive, or whatever and just copy files and folders like you would under Windows. The only time BartPE and A43 failed for me was if MS Works v9 was installed. As MS Works fails to run on a restore. The only thing I can think of was because it was copied from NTFS to FAT32 and restored back on NTFS format. I dunno for sure though. I have done it enough times though and MS Works v9 breaks. Not something I use much though. And oddly enough Acronis is one of the most unreliable backup programs. And it gives you a false sense of security. As the backup part goes without a hitch. The problems pops up during restores. -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2
From: BillW50 on 27 Jun 2010 12:53 In news:12ue26pq29aqvo2aovq45ek6fjuimrgrrl(a)4ax.com, RnR typed on Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:24:57 -0500: > Bill, I too over the years have had an occassional problem with TI. I > like it still but I do get annoyed at times. Annoyed enough to try > others. I still use it but I'm not as confident with it as I used to > be. I know they've had bugs too but I guess that's par for the course > these days. > > Bottom line is I agree with you. Thanks! A lot of people say and warn people they have to make backup and some actually do take the time and do so. Sadly though few ever recommend ever testing those saved backups and see if they actually restore okay. I like taking a spare hard drive for this task so no loss if something doesn't go well. And you might remember, I even recommend going further than this. It is one thing to have software backups. But I also recommend hardware backups too. ;-) -- Bill Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC Windows XP SP2
From: Hank Arnold on 28 Jun 2010 05:45 "Decent" is about it. There is no way to do anything except restore the entire drive. No ability to restore files or folders. Regards, Hank Arnold Microsoft MVP Windows Server - Directory Services http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/personal-pc-assistant/ On 6/27/2010 11:49 AM, MZB wrote: > On 6/27/2010 10:58 AM, Mark Opolo wrote: >> True, >> >> Acronis can contact you by email but try contacting >> Acronis..........without >> paying. >> >> >> "BillW50"<BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message >> news:i07iuk$c1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> In news:i06gj4$cqq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, >>> MZB typed on Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:29:40 -0400: >>>> I have been using Acronis True Image 10 Home to back up my computers >>>> (all XP). The package does not mention Windows7. (The highest is >>>> Vista). >>> >>> Well I like many others have used Acronis True Image because many >>> swear by >>> it. Although some of us have had lots of trouble with Acronis True >>> Image. >>> And last year, I wrote a number of pages of information that I believe >>> users should know about. When it works, it works great. But Acronis >>> doesn't really care about customer support or problems that has been >>> there >>> version after version. >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> Acronis True Image Problems >>> http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/itnetworkguru/acronis-true-image-hell-15076 >>> >>> I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid. >>> http://www.amazon.com/review/R1FYARN6A01DEL >>> >>> Use mostly use ATI, but I not really happy with it for the following >>> reasons >>> http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/99609816/m/609006650931?r=735007850931#735007850931 >>> >>> >>> Acronis True Image Home 2009 Problems >>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2336020,00.asp >>> >>> Acronis True Image 2009: Disk Clone does not complete! >>> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22674079-Acronis-True-Image-2009-Disk-Clone-does-not-complete >>> >>> >>> Acronis True Image 2009: AWFUL customer experience >>> http://torley.com/acronis-true-image-2009-awful-customer-experience >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> Acronis True Image Home 2009 Review >>> When selecting a data backup, try choosing a specific category...but >>> then >>> deselect a folder or two, as shown above. For this example, I chose to >>> backup some website files. I continue on and create the backup >>> archive as >>> previously detailed. Then when I browse the archive in Windows >>> Explorer... >>> >>> The files are not there! >>> >>> This is a major bug in the system, one that causes me to rate the >>> category-based backup feature of Acronis True Image Home 2009 dead on >>> arrival. >>> >>> Acronis True Image Home 2009 also has issues with removable USB >>> drives/keys. A few times, when I was testing the backup feature using my >>> USB stick, I would get some kind of error about sector 63 and the backup >>> would occasionally fail. A quick search about that message revealed that >>> it is a known bug in the latest versions of Acronis True Image. >>> >>> Acronis promises that a patch is on the way for the USB bug. >>> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5103 >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> Acronis Forum Archive >>> http://forum.acronis.com/ >>> >>> More information >>> (!) Acronis does not guarantee that images created with a newer build of >>> the product will be supported by older builds. This means that restoring >>> an image created with Acronis True Image Build 8163 may fail with >>> Acronis >>> True Image Build 8076. >>> http://kb.acronis.com/content/1517 >>> >>> Drives might not contain a valid MBR and therefore are not supported >>> http://kb.acronis.com/content/1515 >>> >>> - The software uses a 64 digit serial code. How much time do Acronis >>> think >>> we've got to waste?! >>> - Nearly all serial numbers are shipped as being faulty! This is an >>> ACKNOWLEDGED PROBLEM on Acronis' web site and you should register online >>> instead of through the software itself. >>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acronis-True-Image-Home-2009/dp/B001GCTRBE >>> >>> More importantly, if a backup fails you get no notification! Instead it >>> quietly buries the evidence in the log file in the hope that one day you >>> might browse it and see the failed backup. Come on Acronis, this is our >>> data we're talking about! If a backup fails I want alarm bells to ring! >>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acronis-True-Image-Home-2009/dp/B001GCTRBE >>> >>> What distinguish Acronis True Image Home 2009 from other backup/restore >>> software >>> http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/acronis-ti2009.htm >>> >>> digital rights management make it completely unusable >>> http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/windows/3498735-acronis-true-image-2009.html?fpart=2 >>> >>> >>> Vista Broken After Restore >>> http://www.abxzone.com/forums/f49/acronis-true-image-2009-users-report-114470.html >>> >>> >>> It backed up fine to my USB external hard drive (Maxtor 4 Plus). But it >>> was unable to mount the file it had made, nor to recover with it. Their >>> tech support said to copy the backup file to an internal drive. >>> http://donnedwards.openaccess.co.za/2009/03/acronis-true-image-2009-home-and.html >>> >>> >>> Acronis True Image Home 2009 Conflicts with USB Card Reader Drivers >>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/support/kb/articles/1047/ >>> >>> Acronis True Image Universal Restore - Problems >>> http://cheelam.com/blog/2009/04/01/acronis-true-image-universal-restore-problems/ >>> >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> I did research on this for days and found using search engines this just >>> isn't so. And here I found a reoccurring theme. >>> >>> 1) A different build number won't restore from another one. Will usually >>> say the file is corrupt and you can't do anything with it. >>> >>> 2) If a backup fails, it doesn't notify you and stores it deep in the >>> logs. >>> >>> 3) Problems with 64 character serial number reverting back to trial >>> version at next startup. >>> >>> 4) Has problems with missing MBR or non-standard MBR drives. >>> >>> 5) Has problems with some USB Card Readers. >>> >>> 6) Emailing support takes 5 to 6 weeks for an answer, which usually has >>> nothing with the problem you are having. >>> >>> 7) Can't restore Digital Rights Management correctly. >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> -- >>> Bill >>> Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC >>> Windows XP SP2 >>> >> >> > Actually, it appears that Windows 7 has a decent backup program?? (Built > in) > > Mel
From: Hank Arnold on 28 Jun 2010 05:45 I'm using version 10 on W7 32-bit as we speak. Regards, Hank Arnold Microsoft MVP Windows Server - Directory Services http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/personal-pc-assistant/ On 6/27/2010 8:47 AM, RnR wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:29:40 -0400, "MZB"<moo(a)noway.prudigy.net> > wrote: > >> Well, folks, I finally did spring for a new laptop: A Compaq Presario for >> $299 at Best Buy. >> It had good reviews on the BB site. >> >> Now a backup question. >> >> I have been using Acronis True Image 10 Home to back up my computers (all >> XP). The package does not mention Windows7. (The highest is Vista). >> >> Does anyone know if it would work on this machine? >> >> If not, any suggestions for a reasonably-priced easy-to-use understandable >> backup program? >> >> Mel >> > > Not supposed to be but I never tried it. If you do try it be sure to > test both the backup and restore because you don't want to backup and > then find out you can't restore your files in an emergency.
From: MZB on 28 Jun 2010 09:31
Hank: Are you sure? Windows 7 seems tgo indicate I can backup individual files or do a system image: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Back-up-and-restore-frequently-asked-questions Mel "Hank Arnold" <rasilon(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:4c286f14$0$31275$607ed4bc(a)cv.net... > "Decent" is about it. There is no way to do anything except restore the > entire drive. No ability to restore files or folders. > > > Regards, > Hank Arnold > Microsoft MVP > Windows Server - Directory Services > http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/personal-pc-assistant/ > > On 6/27/2010 11:49 AM, MZB wrote: >> On 6/27/2010 10:58 AM, Mark Opolo wrote: >>> True, >>> >>> Acronis can contact you by email but try contacting >>> Acronis..........without >>> paying. >>> >>> >>> "BillW50"<BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote in message >>> news:i07iuk$c1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> In news:i06gj4$cqq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, >>>> MZB typed on Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:29:40 -0400: >>>>> I have been using Acronis True Image 10 Home to back up my computers >>>>> (all XP). The package does not mention Windows7. (The highest is >>>>> Vista). >>>> >>>> Well I like many others have used Acronis True Image because many >>>> swear by >>>> it. Although some of us have had lots of trouble with Acronis True >>>> Image. >>>> And last year, I wrote a number of pages of information that I believe >>>> users should know about. When it works, it works great. But Acronis >>>> doesn't really care about customer support or problems that has been >>>> there >>>> version after version. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> Acronis True Image Problems >>>> http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/itnetworkguru/acronis-true-image-hell-15076 >>>> >>>> I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid. >>>> http://www.amazon.com/review/R1FYARN6A01DEL >>>> >>>> Use mostly use ATI, but I not really happy with it for the following >>>> reasons >>>> http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/99609816/m/609006650931?r=735007850931#735007850931 >>>> >>>> >>>> Acronis True Image Home 2009 Problems >>>> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2336020,00.asp >>>> >>>> Acronis True Image 2009: Disk Clone does not complete! >>>> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22674079-Acronis-True-Image-2009-Disk-Clone-does-not-complete >>>> >>>> >>>> Acronis True Image 2009: AWFUL customer experience >>>> http://torley.com/acronis-true-image-2009-awful-customer-experience >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> Acronis True Image Home 2009 Review >>>> When selecting a data backup, try choosing a specific category...but >>>> then >>>> deselect a folder or two, as shown above. For this example, I chose to >>>> backup some website files. I continue on and create the backup >>>> archive as >>>> previously detailed. Then when I browse the archive in Windows >>>> Explorer... >>>> >>>> The files are not there! >>>> >>>> This is a major bug in the system, one that causes me to rate the >>>> category-based backup feature of Acronis True Image Home 2009 dead on >>>> arrival. >>>> >>>> Acronis True Image Home 2009 also has issues with removable USB >>>> drives/keys. A few times, when I was testing the backup feature using >>>> my >>>> USB stick, I would get some kind of error about sector 63 and the >>>> backup >>>> would occasionally fail. A quick search about that message revealed >>>> that >>>> it is a known bug in the latest versions of Acronis True Image. >>>> >>>> Acronis promises that a patch is on the way for the USB bug. >>>> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=5103 >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> Acronis Forum Archive >>>> http://forum.acronis.com/ >>>> >>>> More information >>>> (!) Acronis does not guarantee that images created with a newer build >>>> of >>>> the product will be supported by older builds. This means that >>>> restoring >>>> an image created with Acronis True Image Build 8163 may fail with >>>> Acronis >>>> True Image Build 8076. >>>> http://kb.acronis.com/content/1517 >>>> >>>> Drives might not contain a valid MBR and therefore are not supported >>>> http://kb.acronis.com/content/1515 >>>> >>>> - The software uses a 64 digit serial code. How much time do Acronis >>>> think >>>> we've got to waste?! >>>> - Nearly all serial numbers are shipped as being faulty! This is an >>>> ACKNOWLEDGED PROBLEM on Acronis' web site and you should register >>>> online >>>> instead of through the software itself. >>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acronis-True-Image-Home-2009/dp/B001GCTRBE >>>> >>>> More importantly, if a backup fails you get no notification! Instead it >>>> quietly buries the evidence in the log file in the hope that one day >>>> you >>>> might browse it and see the failed backup. Come on Acronis, this is our >>>> data we're talking about! If a backup fails I want alarm bells to ring! >>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acronis-True-Image-Home-2009/dp/B001GCTRBE >>>> >>>> What distinguish Acronis True Image Home 2009 from other backup/restore >>>> software >>>> http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/acronis-ti2009.htm >>>> >>>> digital rights management make it completely unusable >>>> http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/windows/3498735-acronis-true-image-2009.html?fpart=2 >>>> >>>> >>>> Vista Broken After Restore >>>> http://www.abxzone.com/forums/f49/acronis-true-image-2009-users-report-114470.html >>>> >>>> >>>> It backed up fine to my USB external hard drive (Maxtor 4 Plus). But it >>>> was unable to mount the file it had made, nor to recover with it. Their >>>> tech support said to copy the backup file to an internal drive. >>>> http://donnedwards.openaccess.co.za/2009/03/acronis-true-image-2009-home-and.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Acronis True Image Home 2009 Conflicts with USB Card Reader Drivers >>>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/support/kb/articles/1047/ >>>> >>>> Acronis True Image Universal Restore - Problems >>>> http://cheelam.com/blog/2009/04/01/acronis-true-image-universal-restore-problems/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> I did research on this for days and found using search engines this >>>> just >>>> isn't so. And here I found a reoccurring theme. >>>> >>>> 1) A different build number won't restore from another one. Will >>>> usually >>>> say the file is corrupt and you can't do anything with it. >>>> >>>> 2) If a backup fails, it doesn't notify you and stores it deep in the >>>> logs. >>>> >>>> 3) Problems with 64 character serial number reverting back to trial >>>> version at next startup. >>>> >>>> 4) Has problems with missing MBR or non-standard MBR drives. >>>> >>>> 5) Has problems with some USB Card Readers. >>>> >>>> 6) Emailing support takes 5 to 6 weeks for an answer, which usually has >>>> nothing with the problem you are having. >>>> >>>> 7) Can't restore Digital Rights Management correctly. >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bill >>>> Asus EEE PC 702G8 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC >>>> Windows XP SP2 >>>> >>> >>> >> Actually, it appears that Windows 7 has a decent backup program?? (Built >> in) >> >> Mel |