Best small mixer with 8 XLR inputs?
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From: Arny Krueger on 18 Oct 2009 13:08 "Ron" <ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message news:MZydnTL2xa5vl0bXnZ2dnUVZ8l9i4p2d(a)bt.com > Arny Krueger wrote: > >> I could stop posting here tomorrow, and you'd still be >> venting at me a year from now. >> >> > To paraphrase yourself > "Prove it" It is self-evident to any reasonable person. That unfortunately excludes the "in group" around here.
From: George's Pro Sound Co. on 18 Oct 2009 18:57 Have you actually mixed on top of the line PA systems? The fidelity is excellent and nuances between desks can be very detectable. Granted, top end studio monitors would be a more ideal listening situation, but don't underestimate the capability of a top notch & properly deployed system. FWIW, the rig I was working on was at an outdoor venue with no walls. Mix position was well within the pattern of the arrays. I have, and find most pro level digital desk have a MUCH more open sound, better dfinition and increased precision over even the best of the best old school analouge products one guys "warm" is another guys "mushy" To me the midas sounds like it throws a thick wet blanket on all the mixes , which is why we can not make statments of FACT on subjective evaluations. people who are "used to" the old school sound have a natural prefrence twards it, as it sounds "like it always sounded" Admittedly I have not owned a xl4/H3K so I do not have the decades experiance with one, but to my ear they simply sound outdated and flat give me a pm5d anyday, in fact Everyday. George
From: Eeyore on 18 Oct 2009 19:43 Phildo wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)removethishotmail.com> wrote in message > news:000a544b$0$2634$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> Arny Krueger wrote: >>> Adding an analog mixer adds noise and distortion. >> I suggest you examine the data sheets for National's LME49710/20/40 or >> TI's OPA211/2211 before making any more daft comments like that. >> >> The world is analogue, not digital. Shall we now discuss the failings of >> A/D and D/A converters ? > > You are just a luddite, an unemployable one at that who is angry that the > audio world has gone digital while you and your analogue design skills have > been left behind. You can't have good digital sound without good analogue front and back ends. Mic amps come to mind in particular. You don't seeem to know a lot about the technology. Graham
From: Eeyore on 18 Oct 2009 19:48 Arny Krueger wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)removethishotmail.com> > wrote in message > news:000a544b$0$2634$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com > >> Arny Krueger wrote: > >>> Adding an analog mixer adds noise and distortion. > >> I suggest you examine the data sheets for National's >> LME49710/20/40 or TI's OPA211/2211 before making any more >> daft comments like that. > > So Graham, you want people to believe that a typical analog mixer has only > one op amp in its signal path? Where did you get that daft idea ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 18 Oct 2009 20:11
Arny Krueger wrote: > Our esteemed technical leader Me ? > likes to belittle people with actual formal education in > electronics. You don't know I've had formal education in electronics ( including a specialist course for audio ) myself ? I spent 4 years at London University doing exactly that. I've even had to correct lecturers occasionally since I engaged in self-study since the age of about 14 and knew more about certain aspects of the subject than they did. And where do you get the idea I'm totally anti-digital ? I've designed audio DSP hardware and written the code for it myself ! Have you ? Graham |