CMD stuff for sale .... possibly
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From: Michael on 24 Feb 2010 14:52 On Feb 24, 1:31 pm, EnergyAdvisor <p...(a)paulq.org> wrote: > Enjoy your collecting, just don't pretend that a Commodore 65 is equal > to a Ming dynasty vase. I like my Commodore computers as much as the > next guy, but find the comparison to a Ming dynasty vase embarrassing. Ok... Lets take another stab at this. The reason the Commodore 65 is so valuable is because it was never released. When Commodore folded people went and bought/took the demo units. So, they are very rare. Instead of ming vases, will deal with baseball cards. You telling me that a piece of card board could be worth 1/2 million dollars. Possibly if it was rare and had some famous signature. However, being a Commodore collector/enthusiast and not a base ball collector, to me that card would not be worth that much. However, I 'respect' the people that think/know it is. Your saying just produce the item again. People have tried and failed. The closest thing is the C64DTV and the C1. Talking with music minded people, they said no-one to date has replicated an original SID chip that has the same quality and filtering as the original. I grew up with Commodores, I really like playing games on them more then I do a PSP, Playstation 3, PC, or a XBOX360. Don't get me wrong I still play games on the others but they don't have the nostalgia that the Commodore had. Or how about the football fan who decorates his house with his teams memorabilia. Pays $1000 of dollars for a signed shirt, etc... Same thing. I am a fan of Commodore. I grew up with them and I think they are next best thing to sliced bread.
From: Dragos on 24 Feb 2010 15:27 Its funny, just when you think Pauline is gone..... As I previously said, I do not need the money, I know, its hard for some people (Paul Quirk) to understand that, but why not sell one thing, if the price is right, to get another thing you may want, thereby leaving all your current money where it is? I think thats a sound idea for HOBBIES, which is what this is. Like I said, Jims recent sales only prove my valuation of this "old used junk"
From: Dragos on 25 Feb 2010 10:36 Pics.... http://c64.digitalscream.com/pics/for-sale/SCPU128/
From: EnergyAdvisor on 25 Feb 2010 15:44 On Feb 24, 2:52 pm, Michael <mister...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 1:31 pm, EnergyAdvisor <p...(a)paulq.org> wrote: > > > Enjoy your collecting, just don't pretend that a Commodore 65 is equal > > to a Ming dynasty vase. I like my Commodore computers as much as the > > next guy, but find the comparison to a Ming dynasty vase embarrassing. > > Ok... Lets take another stab at this. The reason the Commodore 65 is > so valuable is because it was never released. When Commodore folded > people went and bought/took the demo units. So, they are very rare. > Instead of ming vases, will deal with baseball cards. You telling me > that a piece of card board could be worth 1/2 million dollars. > Possibly if it was rare and had some famous signature. However, being > a Commodore collector/enthusiast and not a base ball collector, to me > that card would not be worth that much. However, I 'respect' the > people that think/know it is. Your saying just produce the item again. > People have tried and failed. The closest thing is the C64DTV and the > C1. Talking with music minded people, they said no-one to date has > replicated an original SID chip that has the same quality and > filtering as the original. I grew up with Commodores, I really like > playing games on them more then I do a PSP, Playstation 3, PC, or a > XBOX360. Don't get me wrong I still play games on the others but they > don't have the nostalgia that the Commodore had. > > Or how about the football fan who decorates his house with his teams > memorabilia. Pays $1000 of dollars for a signed shirt, etc... Same > thing. I am a fan of Commodore. I grew up with them and I think they > are next best thing to sliced bread. I feel pretty much the same way about old comics, baseball cards, and the like. I can recognize the value of the first comic book EVER, just as I can recognize the value of the first home computer EVER. Certainly, these mark turning points in history. But then I think about a product like the CMD stuff, and to me, that's like hawking the aftermarket stuff that was originally available for the '57 Chevy. Most car collectors don't really care that much about spending big bucks on the aftermarket products available at the time; they're more interested in either a) original equipment, or b) current, more reliable aftermarket parts. I certainly don't think everyone in this forum are fools; most people either: a) still have their original equipment, b) had their Commodore equipment given to them, or c) purchased it for a very reasonable price (<1/2 of MSRP). The CMD stuff is rare because most people didn't bother buying it, and in this day and age, with Jim Brain's uIEC, it's almost completely lost relevance. I would go so far as to say that the uIEC is destined to retain its own cultural relevance which will easily exceed that of CMD hardware. A low serial number C64, or a prototype pre-production C64, I can see that being worth a nice chunk of cash. Of course, we all know that Mark Gladson doesn't need the money, he just can't afford eBay's outrageous fees. LOL
From: Michael on 25 Feb 2010 16:33
On Feb 25, 3:44 pm, EnergyAdvisor <p...(a)paulq.org> wrote: > The CMD stuff is rare because most people > didn't bother buying it, and in this day and age, with Jim Brain's > uIEC, it's almost completely lost relevance. I would go so far as to > say that the uIEC is destined to retain its own cultural relevance > which will easily exceed that of CMD hardware. A low serial number > C64, or a prototype pre-production C64, I can see that being worth a > nice chunk of cash. > - Show quoted text - I agree for most of it. But the CMD is another issue. I remember when the hard-drive came out. A guy with the nick-name of Megna came on the sceen and had one. It was not that no one wanted one. None of us could afford them and credit years ago was not like it is today. They did a lot of checking back then. I remember being at a commodore group and everyone was in awe about it. Back then most of the main crowd I hung around with were teenagers/young adulst and money was not there due to the age. So, you had an item you can not buy but adds incredibly fast speeds or storage to your computer. There are very little of them out there compared to the Commodore 64 itself. I really don't thing they would sell for much if they had thing today that could work as good or be compatible with them. CMD hard-drive = Can run GEOS. uIEC can not. Also the CMD had some other advantages to boot. Don't get me wrong. I have a couple uIECs to mess around with but having a CMD hard-drive and being able to run GEOS off of it would be a different story. The Super CPU on the other hand. There is 'nothing' made today that gets a stock 64 going at 20MHz. You would think it would be more possible with todays tech but no. So you have limited amout of Super CPUs and there is nothing available today that can run as its equal. With the NIC expansion, JiffyDOS, and other thing happening, wouldn't it be nice if could product an item of such quality today. 20 years and they are still ticking. |