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From: Ray Fischer on 29 Jun 2010 13:52 Doug McDonald <mcdonald(a)scs.uiuc.edu.remove.invalid> wrote: >On 6/29/2010 4:25 AM, Paul Heslop wrote: > >>> You don't have to be a right-winger to dislike Michael Moore. I think >>> he's a fraud. Like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and the rest of the >>> radical fringe, Moore presents selected bits that support his >>> positions. Moore's a radical, but at the opposite end of the spectrum >>> from the others mentioned. >> >> oh yeah, I take much of what he says with a pinch of salt. I don't >> think he lies, as such, but has a very narrow field of view. But then >> he is in the entertainment business where fox 'news' is supposedly a >> news channel. > >The difference is that the Fox News commentators are basically right. LOL! That's why polls show Faux News viewers to be most likely to be misinformed about national events. That's why Faux News actually when to court to defend its right to lie. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: Paul Heslop on 29 Jun 2010 15:56 Ray Fischer wrote: > > Doug McDonald <mcdonald(a)scs.uiuc.edu.remove.invalid> wrote: > >On 6/29/2010 4:25 AM, Paul Heslop wrote: > > > >>> You don't have to be a right-winger to dislike Michael Moore. I think > >>> he's a fraud. Like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and the rest of the > >>> radical fringe, Moore presents selected bits that support his > >>> positions. Moore's a radical, but at the opposite end of the spectrum > >>> from the others mentioned. > >> > >> oh yeah, I take much of what he says with a pinch of salt. I don't > >> think he lies, as such, but has a very narrow field of view. But then > >> he is in the entertainment business where fox 'news' is supposedly a > >> news channel. > > > >The difference is that the Fox News commentators are basically right. > > LOL! > > That's why polls show Faux News viewers to be most likely to be > misinformed about national events. That's why Faux News actually when > to court to defend its right to lie. > > -- > Ray Fischer > rfischer(a)sonic.net I like that, Faux News. it has the same standing as Tony Bliar. -- Paul (we break easy) ------------------------------------------------------- Stop and Look http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
From: Robert Coe on 29 Jun 2010 20:48 On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:17:23 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: : On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:06:35 -0400, Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote: : : >I have been a registered Republican since 1958. : : I'm just a newcomer to politics, then, I registered as a Republican in : May, 1959. For several years I even voted Republican. : : I am still a registered Republican, but it's been years since I've : voted for a Republican for national or state office. (I sometimes : vote for a Republican for local office) : : I remain registered as a Republican to be a "spoiler" in the : Republican primary. I believe that the biggest danger to this country : is the Christian Conservative, so I vote for the opponent of anyone : who is endorsed by the Christian Coalition. : : Remaining a registered Republican is also a bit fun at times. I get : telephone calls near the elections from campaign workers for : Republican candidates. They start out assuming, because I'm a : registered Republican, that I'm on their side. The conversation goes : downhill - for them - very quickly. Your experience, attitude, and motivation parallel mine exactly. Except for one thing: All the calls I get from the party are robo-calls; I can't answer them back! :^| Bob
From: Robert Coe on 29 Jun 2010 21:09 On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:53:49 -0500, Jane Galt <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote: : Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote : : : : >: : >: What would it have to do with demographics? : > : > Most people on Usenet are a good bit younger than I am. : > : >: Are you, or not? : > : > I have been a registered Republican since 1958. : > : >: And who cares? "Republicrat" is a meaningless term because it's not : >: objectively defined. You could be a conservative or a leninist and : >: still be under the "big tent" of that undefined party. : > : > I'm a Barry Goldwater Republican. (You've heard of him?) Which means I'm : > to the left of virtually everybody in the party today. : : Of course, my grandma voted for him. But he was true libertarian leaning, not : socialist leaning. : : : "Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is : also big enough to take away everything you have.� -Barry Goldwater : : : This Cicero quote was what lost him the election, wasnt it?: : : "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the pursuit of : justice is no virtue." - Marcus Tullius Cicero : : What an "extremist" think to say! And he liked the Constitution! Horrors! On gays in the military: "What difference does It make [whether a soldier is straight]? What matters is whethre he can shoot straight." - Barry M. Goldwater To Richard Milhous Nixon (leading the delegation of right-thinking Republicans assigned to deliver the news that the Watergate jig is up): "I can count only five votes [in the Senate impeachment trial] in your favor. And by the way, I'm not one of them." - Barry G. Bob
From: Peter on 29 Jun 2010 21:48
"Robert Coe" <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote in message news:9b5l26d4or1geroqciur5ebhv243p48tav(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:53:49 -0500, Jane Galt <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote: > : Robert Coe <bob(a)1776.COM> wrote : > : > : > : >: > : >: What would it have to do with demographics? > : > > : > Most people on Usenet are a good bit younger than I am. > : > > : >: Are you, or not? > : > > : > I have been a registered Republican since 1958. > : > > : >: And who cares? "Republicrat" is a meaningless term because it's not > : >: objectively defined. You could be a conservative or a leninist and > : >: still be under the "big tent" of that undefined party. > : > > : > I'm a Barry Goldwater Republican. (You've heard of him?) Which means > I'm > : > to the left of virtually everybody in the party today. > : > : Of course, my grandma voted for him. But he was true libertarian > leaning, not > : socialist leaning. > : > : > : "Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want > is > : also big enough to take away everything you have." -Barry Goldwater > : > : > : This Cicero quote was what lost him the election, wasnt it?: > : > : "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice; moderation in the > pursuit of > : justice is no virtue." - Marcus Tullius Cicero > : > : What an "extremist" think to say! And he liked the Constitution! > Horrors! > > On gays in the military: > > "What difference does It make [whether a soldier is straight]? What > matters is > whethre he can shoot straight." > - Barry M. Goldwater > > To Richard Milhous Nixon (leading the delegation of right-thinking > Republicans > assigned to deliver the news that the Watergate jig is up): > > "I can count only five votes [in the Senate impeachment trial] in your > favor. > And by the way, I'm not one of them." > - Barry G. Barry Goldwater was a man of integrity and conviction. He was well respected, even by those who disagreed with his philosophy. Originally I thought McCain would be like him. I was quickly disabused of that thought. -- Peter |