From: peteswansen on

We ran into this problem in 1989 at Tooele Army Depot. Our mainframe
was a IBM 3780 ( if memory serves me right!) and we operated between an
ASCII database on MS-DOS computers- to Sperry Univac servers and then
translated the data in EBCDIC for the mainframe run. Then we had to
transfer back to ASCII. Our Honeywell page printer was tailored to
EBCDIC formatted reports. The COBOL guys were sweating over this
one!!!!! When they wanted us to start printing the mass reports I had
to figure out how to get the Honeywell to print from a ASCII tape. I
dug into the old-crusty reference manual and found the cryptic code to
reprogram the Honeywell. I got a cash award for $200 and 1-grade
promotion for my part in this adventure. You know, I still dream of
stacks of cards, 4 part carbons, impact printers, tape drives and my
short career programming in COBOL- now I use VB, Java, and C.

From: on
In article <1158646261.405766.20440(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
<peteswansen(a)wavecable.com> wrote:
>
> We ran into this problem in 1989 at Tooele Army Depot.

Damnation... I guess I'm not creative enough to come up with a new or
unusual difficulty.

>I
>dug into the old-crusty reference manual and found the cryptic code to
>reprogram the Honeywell.

E'en worse... the target here is a WANG VS; from what I can tell the
manuals were put in a Very Safe Place when folks did a floor-to-floor
shuffle a few years back. Fortunately there is this WorldWide Web thingie
that allows for researching such matters.

>I got a cash award for $200 and 1-grade
>promotion for my part in this adventure. You know, I still dream of
>stacks of cards, 4 part carbons, impact printers, tape drives and my
>short career programming in COBOL- now I use VB, Java, and C.

Keep a close watch on those dreams... I recall reading, somewhere, about a
fellow who was languishing in a prison until it was discovered that he
could interpret dreams; he got promoted from the jail-house to
second-in-command of a mighty empire... got a Company Chariot, too.

DD

From: on
In article <s%CPg.28511$jS4.18972(a)fe03.news.easynews.com>,
William M. Klein <wmklein(a)nospam.netcom.com> wrote:
>A couple of answers (to you and other posts).
>
>1) IBM mainframe (currently) only supports CODESET and OPTCD=Q for TAPE
>datasets. I *think* that if you use BOTH CODESET clause and OPTCD=Q, then you
>SHOULD be able to produce an ASCII TAPE output.

Gah. Thanks much, Mr Klein; I am trying to do this entirely by
utilities/JCL and I hope to avoid a dedicated COBOL program... if my hopes
are in vain then I'll start down this path.

>
>2) My best guess from the symptoms reported is that this MIGHT be a "label
>records standard" issue. I think COBOL OPTCD=Q files. Check out:
> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/igy3pg31/1.9.7

Most valuable... thanks much!

[snip]

>4) Will you have any COMP-3 or non-USAGE DISPLAY output (with sign is
>separate).
>If so, make certain that you (or the person who signs your check) knows
>what is
>REALLY wanted.

'Victory's father is the guy who signs the timesheet, defeat's daddy is
The Consultant'... or something like that.

>
>5) All of this assumes a COBOL application. If you want a DFSort answer, I can
>make certain that Frank Yeager knows about your post and he can probably
>provide
>additional DFSort information.

Not necessarily DFSORT, *any* JCL/utility stream which will not require
the creating of a special program full of obscure constructs and arcane
references. The reason for this is, of course, that the less 'stuff' one
needs to get past folks in order to get Prod implementation the less stuff
there is for someone to look at and say 'I don't understand this... so it
doesn't go in.'

(for some reason folks here are more willing to let utilities/JCL
constructs with which they are unfamiliar into Prod - I've put in the
first jobs using things like referbacks and ICETOOL that this shop seems
to have seen - than they are willing to let unfamiliar COBOL constructs
pass in a similar manner)

Thanks much!

DD
From: Howard Brazee on
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:50:14 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:

>Gah. Thanks much, Mr Klein; I am trying to do this entirely by
>utilities/JCL and I hope to avoid a dedicated COBOL program... if my hopes
>are in vain then I'll start down this path.

In that case, I can post your request on the IBM-Main listserver,
which is copied to the IBM-Main newsgroup. Shall I go ahead and do
that?
From: on
In article <93svg25kdd3k99p7enqouh5v6ulqug1mue(a)4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:50:14 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote:
>
>>Gah. Thanks much, Mr Klein; I am trying to do this entirely by
>>utilities/JCL and I hope to avoid a dedicated COBOL program... if my hopes
>>are in vain then I'll start down this path.
>
>In that case, I can post your request on the IBM-Main listserver,
>which is copied to the IBM-Main newsgroup. Shall I go ahead and do
>that?

Sure, why not... I've been told to RTFM by better folks than they, I'm
sure!

Thanks much.

DD