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From: Arny Krueger on 4 Oct 2009 17:36 "George's Pro Sound Co." <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3umdnQfSCqCGl1TXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com > "Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message > news:h4-dnbxV-cpWSFXXnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> "George's Pro Sound Co." <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in >> message >> news:_s6dnT-eqLSsFlXXnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com >>> silly me for thinking you were mixing stereo drums to a >>> single mono center cluster >> >> Very, very silly of you George, since you already >> faulted me for not mixing stereo drums knowing full well >> that I had a full-range central cluster. Just goes to >> show that you often make no sense at all - first >> faulting me for not mixing stereo drums on a Roland TD >> 12 which is mono, and then faulting me for not mixing >> stereo for a sound system that has only a single central >> full-range cluster. Where do you get those ideas? >>> now where would I have ever got that idea from what you >>> wrote >> >> Good question, George. Probably the same place you get >> many of your other very strange ideas. The root of your >> problem is that you have to always be the world's expert >> about *everything* in live sound, even rooms and >> equipment that you have never seen. You also seem to forget what few >> details about them that have already >> been posted on AAPLS. > again arnii you posted about your stereo drums here: > "So George, exactly what happens when you put stereo > drums through a single mono central cluster? I guess > you're telling us that one would get stereo anyway, > right?" George, that was a general technical question, not a statement about what I run. Geroge, I had two chances to make you look like the posturing know-it-all that you really are: (1) You falsely claimed that I had a stereo speaker system. (2) You falsely claimed that I had stereo drums. I've posted here that we had a Roland TD12 going back to 2005.
From: George's Pro Sound Co. on 4 Oct 2009 17:54 "George's Pro Sound Co." <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:XNSdncdzNf6BhFTXnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > "Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message > news:VK2dndIn84lOiFTXnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> "George's Pro Sound Co." <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:3umdnQfSCqCGl1TXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com >>> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message >>> news:h4-dnbxV-cpWSFXXnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> "George's Pro Sound Co." <bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in >>>> message >>>> news:_s6dnT-eqLSsFlXXnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com >>>>> silly me for thinking you were mixing stereo drums to a >>>>> single mono center cluster >>>> >>>> Very, very silly of you George, since you already >>>> faulted me for not mixing stereo drums knowing full well >>>> that I had a full-range central cluster. Just goes to >>>> show that you often make no sense at all - first >>>> faulting me for not mixing stereo drums on a Roland TD >>>> 12 which is mono, and then faulting me for not mixing >>>> stereo for a sound system that has only a single central >>>> full-range cluster. Where do you get those ideas? >>>>> now where would I have ever got that idea from what you >>>>> wrote >>>> >>>> Good question, George. Probably the same place you get >>>> many of your other very strange ideas. The root of your >>>> problem is that you have to always be the world's expert >>>> about *everything* in live sound, even rooms and >>>> equipment that you have never seen. You also seem to forget what few >>>> details about them that have already >>>> been posted on AAPLS. >> >>> again arnii you posted about your stereo drums here: >> >>> "So George, exactly what happens when you put stereo >>> drums through a single mono central cluster? I guess >>> you're telling us that one would get stereo anyway, >>> right?" >> >> George, that was a general technical question, not a statement about what >> I run. >> >> Geroge, I had two chances to make you look like the posturing know-it-all >> that you really are: >> >> (1) You falsely claimed that I had a stereo speaker system. > > I guess that is my fault , with a 02r and running , what did you say ? > about 600 inputs? I could not have imagined that you refused to upgrade to > stereo > I guess I underestimated the depths of your ignorance > >> >> (2) You falsely claimed that I had stereo drums. > arnii you DO have stereo drums that you cripple sound wise running them mono It is not my fault you neither care about or have any understanding of live sound George
From: George's Pro Sound Co. on 4 Oct 2009 17:57 >> >>> >>> (2) You falsely claimed that I had stereo drums. >> here is a tough one for you arnii is the roland td12 module stereo? time to man up arnii, your smoke and mirror bullshit has been exposed yet again george
From: Tim S Kemp on 4 Oct 2009 18:16 "Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message news:zaKdndZCBdfPxVXXnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > "Tim S Kemp" <news(a)timkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:z46dnTdsd88u3VXXnZ2dnUVZ8sSdnZ2d(a)eclipse.net.uk > >> Nothing wrong with mixing mono if your FOH is mono. Our >> church setup is certainly not stereo, so we mix >> everything panned centre but we do bring multiple inputs >> from the drums for multitrack. > > As I've said here before, the drums are Roland TD12. George seems to > think that I should be able to get stereo out of them... Do you think the > same? Dunno, our TD8 and TD20 both will supply stereo but I run 4 feeds from them (kick/snare/hat/kit) and we run real cymbals... -- And remember kids, RAID is safe and the UPS never fails, and Cisco routers never develop intermittent faults, and external hard drives never fail with only a month's use, and the DNS is reliable and resilient, and the mailserver is protected from all forms of attack, and the replacement UPS will be reliable as the first one was an unusual failure.
From: Tim S Kemp on 4 Oct 2009 18:19
"Arny Krueger" <arnyk(a)hotpop.com> wrote in message news:x72dnThKldBRG1XXnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > when anybody who knows anything about Roland drums knows that TD12s are > mono. http://www.roland.co.uk/products/productdetails.aspx?p=724 Oddly, they have a left, and right, output. From memory it's got a mixer where you can pan all the individual sounds too. -- And remember kids, RAID is safe and the UPS never fails, and Cisco routers never develop intermittent faults, and external hard drives never fail with only a month's use, and the DNS is reliable and resilient, and the mailserver is protected from all forms of attack, and the replacement UPS will be reliable as the first one was an unusual failure. |