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From: FromTheRafters on 5 Jan 2010 17:20 "The Central Scrutinizer" <gcisko(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:hhumt2$22q$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > Virus versus malware is just a detail to the average user. Do your > parents > or my parents know the difference? I doubt it. That has nothing to do with the *fact* that they are different group entities and different methods are used to address them.
From: FromTheRafters on 5 Jan 2010 17:24 "Dustin Cook" <bughunter.dustin(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9CF78B145F8FCHHI2948AJD832(a)69.16.185.250... > "The Central Scrutinizer" <gcisko(a)hotmail.com> wrote in > news:hhumt2$22q$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > >> Virus versus malware is just a detail to the average user. Do your >> parents or my parents know the difference? I doubt it. > > it's an important detail. Same as knowing which side is positive and > which > is negative on a battery; you only get one chance in some cases to > connect > something correctly; or the magic smoke comes out. This is the same > idea. > > We don't deal with viruses, it's not the focus of our program; without > a > seperate antivirus, your not as safe as you could be. Users even > average > ones need to be educated. As an aside, MBAM just (apparently) FPed on my: C:\IBMTOOLS\APPS\ACCSUPT\as_setup.ex2 file.
From: The Central Scrutinizer on 6 Jan 2010 00:18 Actually it seems more like infinitesimal points of details for experts to pontificate about. The potential is you are equally hosed with a virus as you are with malware. "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:hi0e0a$hr1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "The Central Scrutinizer" <gcisko(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:hhumt2$22q$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >> Virus versus malware is just a detail to the average user. Do your >> parents >> or my parents know the difference? I doubt it. > > That has nothing to do with the *fact* that they are different group > entities and different methods are used to address them. >
From: FromTheRafters on 6 Jan 2010 16:48 "The Central Scrutinizer" <gcisko(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:hi16ec$sjd$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > Actually it seems more like infinitesimal points of details for > experts to > pontificate about. Yes, it does seem that way to those that don't (and perhaps can't) understand what the difference is. When the term virus was coined for self-replicating code, it caught on and became a buzz word for anything that can go wrong with a computer. Despite that, the definition still stands. No amount of crying will repeal that. > The potential is you are equally hosed with a virus as you are with > malware. Most experts currently agree that all viruses are indeed malware (and they are wrong). The fact is that a virus need not be malicious - and in fact can be a boon to mankind in the future. A virus is a virus because of what it does, not because of how people feel about the results - not the same for malware because malware by definition is malicious. [...]
From: Dustin Cook on 6 Jan 2010 21:25
"FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:hi30f6$bir$1 @news.eternal-september.org: > "The Central Scrutinizer" <gcisko(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:hi16ec$sjd$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >> Actually it seems more like infinitesimal points of details for >> experts to >> pontificate about. > > Yes, it does seem that way to those that don't (and perhaps can't) > understand what the difference is. When the term virus was coined for > self-replicating code, it caught on and became a buzz word for anything > that can go wrong with a computer. Despite that, the definition still > stands. No amount of crying will repeal that. > >> The potential is you are equally hosed with a virus as you are with >> malware. > > Most experts currently agree that all viruses are indeed malware (and > they are wrong). The fact is that a virus need not be malicious - and in > fact can be a boon to mankind in the future. A virus is a virus because > of what it does, not because of how people feel about the results - not > the same for malware because malware by definition is malicious. > > [...] > > > And, malware is sometimes much easier to clean up. A fine example would be the rogue program known as internetsecurity(antivirus)2010; it's an annoyance, but not too difficult. A virus on the other hand, can be a real pisser; it has self replicating code; and it could be inside hundreds of files on your system by the time you notice something is amiss. -- .... Those are my thoughts anyways... |