From: liquidator on

"Ron" <ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message
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> On 01/04/2010 13:52, Ron wrote:
>> On 01/04/2010 13:46, Gareth Magennis wrote:
>>> "George's Pro Sound Co."<bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:DMWdnf677qj0DCnWnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Gareth Magennis"<sound.service(a)btconnect.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:jvWdna31K_SCEinWnZ2dnUVZ8kadnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> looking for a source of these in the UK:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_boxdiaphragma_4401.htm (out of stock)
>>>>>
>>>>> Voice coil diameter 45mm.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the same diaphragm that W Audio use , so I am guessing it is
>>>>> some
>>>>> cheap generic chinese design these kind of manufacturers just buy
>>>>> off the
>>>>> shelf. I have also seen these in another speaker, but can't remember
>>>>> now
>>>>> what it was.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gareth.
>>>>
>>>> I would look here
>>>> not in the UK but I am sure they ship worldwide
>>>> http://www.loudspeakersplus.com/
>>>> george
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers, this looks closest.
>>> http://www.loudspeakersplus.com/product.asp?specific=1391
>>>
>>> Which just comfirms my suspicion the ones I see are a cheap copy of an
>>> existing design.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gareth.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It looks like the one Mackie use to me, S408 I believe.
>>
>> Ron(UK)
> That would be the BMD440-RD

Isn't the BMD-440 a Paudio driver?


From: Ron on
On 01/04/2010 14:58, liquidator wrote:
> "Ron"<ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:_cKdnWh9GdirBSnWnZ2dnUVZ8mFi4p2d(a)bt.com...
>> On 01/04/2010 13:52, Ron wrote:
>>> On 01/04/2010 13:46, Gareth Magennis wrote:
>>>> "George's Pro Sound Co."<bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:DMWdnf677qj0DCnWnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gareth Magennis"<sound.service(a)btconnect.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:jvWdna31K_SCEinWnZ2dnUVZ8kadnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> looking for a source of these in the UK:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_boxdiaphragma_4401.htm (out of stock)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voice coil diameter 45mm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is the same diaphragm that W Audio use , so I am guessing it is
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> cheap generic chinese design these kind of manufacturers just buy
>>>>>> off the
>>>>>> shelf. I have also seen these in another speaker, but can't remember
>>>>>> now
>>>>>> what it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gareth.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would look here
>>>>> not in the UK but I am sure they ship worldwide
>>>>> http://www.loudspeakersplus.com/
>>>>> george
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, this looks closest.
>>>> http://www.loudspeakersplus.com/product.asp?specific=1391
>>>>
>>>> Which just comfirms my suspicion the ones I see are a cheap copy of an
>>>> existing design.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gareth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It looks like the one Mackie use to me, S408 I believe.
>>>
>>> Ron(UK)
>> That would be the BMD440-RD
>
> Isn't the BMD-440 a Paudio driver?
>
>

BMD440-RD
Replacement diaphragm for the BMD440 & BMD450 HF drivers, Berhinger
44P60A8, 44P60-A8, 44-P60A8, 44P60A-8, Mackie DC10/1701-8, DC-10-1701-8,
DC10 1701-8, Mackie CD10 1701-8, CD10-1701-8, CD10/1701-8, Mackie
SA1521, SRM450, SRM-450, SRM 450 Mackie C300Z, C300-Z, C-300Z, C 300Z,
Mackie 0008093, Gemini GX400, GX-400, GX 400, P-Audio 440, P-Audio Co-Ax
BM10 CXA, BM10-CXA, BM10CXA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM12 CXA, BM12-CXA, BM12CXA,
P-Audio Co-Ax BM12 CXHA, BM12-CXHA, BM12CXHA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM15 CXA,
BM15-CXA, BM15CXA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM15 CXHA, BM15-CXHA, BM15CXHA, Atlas
Sound AH94-8ST and AH94-12ST

Also fits the Mackie DC10/1701-8, DC-10-1701-8, DC10 1701-8, Mackie CD10
1701-8, CD10-1701-8, CD10/1701-8, Mackie SA1521, SRM450, SRM-450, SRM
450 Mackie C300Z, C300-Z, C-300Z, C 300Z, Mackie 0008093.8 ohm
From: Gareth Magennis on
> BMD440-RD
> Replacement diaphragm for the BMD440 & BMD450 HF drivers, Berhinger
> 44P60A8, 44P60-A8, 44-P60A8, 44P60A-8, Mackie DC10/1701-8, DC-10-1701-8,
> DC10 1701-8, Mackie CD10 1701-8, CD10-1701-8, CD10/1701-8, Mackie SA1521,
> SRM450, SRM-450, SRM 450 Mackie C300Z, C300-Z, C-300Z, C 300Z, Mackie
> 0008093, Gemini GX400, GX-400, GX 400, P-Audio 440, P-Audio Co-Ax BM10
> CXA, BM10-CXA, BM10CXA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM12 CXA, BM12-CXA, BM12CXA, P-Audio
> Co-Ax BM12 CXHA, BM12-CXHA, BM12CXHA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM15 CXA, BM15-CXA,
> BM15CXA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM15 CXHA, BM15-CXHA, BM15CXHA, Atlas Sound
> AH94-8ST and AH94-12ST
>
> Also fits the Mackie DC10/1701-8, DC-10-1701-8, DC10 1701-8, Mackie CD10
> 1701-8, CD10-1701-8, CD10/1701-8, Mackie SA1521, SRM450, SRM-450, SRM 450
> Mackie C300Z, C300-Z, C-300Z, C 300Z, Mackie 0008093.8 ohm


Thanks Ron, I was actually expecting you to have the answer!

I suspect the really low budget manufacturers use a Chinese clone (e.g. the
one on the Thomann site).
I have had 4 or 5 of these cheapo nasties in now that needed replacement,
with no visible signs of overdriving/burning etc, just a break in the
continuity somewhere.



Cheers,


Gareth.

From: liquidator on

"Ron" <ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message
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> On 01/04/2010 14:58, liquidator wrote:
>> "Ron"<ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:_cKdnWh9GdirBSnWnZ2dnUVZ8mFi4p2d(a)bt.com...
>>> On 01/04/2010 13:52, Ron wrote:
>>>> On 01/04/2010 13:46, Gareth Magennis wrote:
>>>>> "George's Pro Sound Co."<bmoas(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:DMWdnf677qj0DCnWnZ2dnUVZ_hednZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gareth Magennis"<sound.service(a)btconnect.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:jvWdna31K_SCEinWnZ2dnUVZ8kadnZ2d(a)bt.com...
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> looking for a source of these in the UK:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_boxdiaphragma_4401.htm (out of stock)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Voice coil diameter 45mm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is the same diaphragm that W Audio use , so I am guessing it is
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> cheap generic chinese design these kind of manufacturers just buy
>>>>>>> off the
>>>>>>> shelf. I have also seen these in another speaker, but can't remember
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> what it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gareth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would look here
>>>>>> not in the UK but I am sure they ship worldwide
>>>>>> http://www.loudspeakersplus.com/
>>>>>> george
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, this looks closest.
>>>>> http://www.loudspeakersplus.com/product.asp?specific=1391
>>>>>
>>>>> Which just comfirms my suspicion the ones I see are a cheap copy of an
>>>>> existing design.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gareth.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the one Mackie use to me, S408 I believe.
>>>>
>>>> Ron(UK)
>>> That would be the BMD440-RD
>>
>> Isn't the BMD-440 a Paudio driver?
>>
>>
>
> BMD440-RD
> Replacement diaphragm for the BMD440 & BMD450 HF drivers, Berhinger
> 44P60A8, 44P60-A8, 44-P60A8, 44P60A-8, Mackie DC10/1701-8, DC-10-1701-8,
> DC10 1701-8, Mackie CD10 1701-8, CD10-1701-8, CD10/1701-8, Mackie SA1521,
> SRM450, SRM-450, SRM 450 Mackie C300Z, C300-Z, C-300Z, C 300Z, Mackie
> 0008093, Gemini GX400, GX-400, GX 400, P-Audio 440, P-Audio Co-Ax BM10
> CXA, BM10-CXA, BM10CXA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM12 CXA, BM12-CXA, BM12CXA, P-Audio
> Co-Ax BM12 CXHA, BM12-CXHA, BM12CXHA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM15 CXA, BM15-CXA,
> BM15CXA, P-Audio Co-Ax BM15 CXHA, BM15-CXHA, BM15CXHA, Atlas Sound
> AH94-8ST and AH94-12ST
>
> Also fits the Mackie DC10/1701-8, DC-10-1701-8, DC10 1701-8, Mackie CD10
> 1701-8, CD10-1701-8, CD10/1701-8, Mackie SA1521, SRM450, SRM-450, SRM 450
> Mackie C300Z, C300-Z, C-300Z, C 300Z, Mackie 0008093.8 ohm

Here's what I was thinking.

I think there are funky clones though.

http://www.loudspeakersplus.com/product.asp?specific=johpdpl0


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