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From: Chris Becke on 16 Apr 2010 08:34
On 15/04/2010 21:47, Marvin Landman wrote:
> You are either writing an ordinary malware or a malware that takes over
> another malware without being noticed by the other malware.

Because obviously developers who question conventional wisdom are evil?

I don't understand why people who have nothing positive to contribute
feel compelled to contribute nonetheless.

So what if he is writing malware? At the very least, non malware
developers in this forum get exposure to the techniques used, and,
maybe, someday, someone witha white hat will use that knowledge to make
a tool that can remove malware, reliably, thats "online".

Or we could continue to squat in the darkness, and throw poo at anyone
who dares to suggest we should investigate the positive uses of fire.
From: sarshah20 on 19 Apr 2010 05:37
Thanks everyone for their support and ideas. I did not know that
community help was forbidden in case someone is working on an
undisclosed idea/experiment. I am sure that there are a lot of people
who work for software firms and ask plenty of questions here related
to their work without disclosing much. Anyway, thanks to Roger, Don,
Chris for support and most relevant answers to the core question.

May be we all need to be a bit more brave, think positive and support
those who are trying to fight malwares. I will definitely seek further
help from the community if i run into any issue.

sarshah.

On Apr 16, 5:34 pm, Chris Becke <chris.be...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 15/04/2010 21:47, Marvin Landman wrote:
>
> > You are either writing an ordinary malware or a malware that takes over
> > another malware without being noticed by the other malware.
>
> Because obviously developers who question conventional wisdom are evil?
>
> I don't understand why people who have nothing positive to contribute
> feel compelled to contribute nonetheless.
>
> So what if he is writing malware? At the very least, non malware
> developers in this forum get exposure to the techniques used, and,
> maybe, someday, someone witha white hat will use that knowledge to make
> a tool that can remove malware, reliably, thats "online".
>
> Or we could continue to squat in the darkness, and throw poo at anyone
> who dares to suggest we should investigate the positive uses of fire.

From: sarshah20 on 20 Apr 2010 01:54
Thanks Hector. Point taken.

sarshah.

On Apr 19, 10:33 pm, Hector Santos <sant9...(a)nospam.gmail.com> wrote:
> sarsha...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for their support and ideas. I did not know that
> > community help was forbidden in case someone is working on an
> > undisclosed idea/experiment. I am sure that there are a lot of people
> > who work for software firms and ask plenty of questions here related
> > to their work without disclosing much. Anyway, thanks to Roger, Don,
> > Chris for support and most relevant answers to the core question.
>
> Sure, but its better to keep it to yourself what your motivations and
> intentions are.   When it comes to software and its frivolous nature
> of patents, it is a very touchy subject especially for old timers who
> been around the groups helping many people over the years. In
> addition, with the advent of globalization, there are many countries
> where Software Patents are viewed with a negative view and disdain.
>
> > May be we all need to be a bit more brave, think positive and support
> > those who are trying to fight malwares. I will definitely seek further
> > help from the community if i run into any issue.
>
> You see what I mean. If you felt that way, then you shouldn't be
> writing patents which only has one goal - to stop others from being
> brave, thinking positive and developing the next better mouse trap.
>
> Keep your reasons to yourself if you want maximum input. Don't throw
> it into people's face. Its really not a good idea anyway for you.
> What if someone read about the idea from you and file a patent before
> you did especially by someone who is smarter than you and doesn't need
> level of community help you seem to help to get running with it? Are
> you going to get mad?
>
> --
> HLS

From: Hector Santos on 19 Apr 2010 13:33
sarshah20(a)yahoo.com wrote:

> Thanks everyone for their support and ideas. I did not know that
> community help was forbidden in case someone is working on an
> undisclosed idea/experiment. I am sure that there are a lot of people
> who work for software firms and ask plenty of questions here related
> to their work without disclosing much. Anyway, thanks to Roger, Don,
> Chris for support and most relevant answers to the core question.


Sure, but its better to keep it to yourself what your motivations and
intentions are. When it comes to software and its frivolous nature
of patents, it is a very touchy subject especially for old timers who
been around the groups helping many people over the years. In
addition, with the advent of globalization, there are many countries
where Software Patents are viewed with a negative view and disdain.

> May be we all need to be a bit more brave, think positive and support
> those who are trying to fight malwares. I will definitely seek further
> help from the community if i run into any issue.


You see what I mean. If you felt that way, then you shouldn't be
writing patents which only has one goal - to stop others from being
brave, thinking positive and developing the next better mouse trap.

Keep your reasons to yourself if you want maximum input. Don't throw
it into people's face. Its really not a good idea anyway for you.
What if someone read about the idea from you and file a patent before
you did especially by someone who is smarter than you and doesn't need
level of community help you seem to help to get running with it? Are
you going to get mad?

--
HLS
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