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From: nospam on 9 Jul 2010 05:08 In article <i16flu$mgs$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, David J Taylor <david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote: > >>Superzoom and compact are terms I would quite happily use, while > >>retaining the generic term P&S to cover both. ... > > > > We wouldn't want to miss an opportunity for pejorative bashing, now > > would we. You must be terribly insecure and threatened. > > Take Amazon - they have a category: > > Electronics & Photo, Photography, Digital Cameras, Point & Shoot Digital > Cameras > > where the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ38EB-K Digital Camera is listed. i bet he shops at amazon too, even though they bash his camera.
From: -hh on 9 Jul 2010 11:02 nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > Neil Harrington <nob...(a)homehere.net> wrote: > > ... > > whereas pushbutton motorized zooms go by steps, you have > > to be satisfied with "close enough," and not very quickly. > > he said a friend of his kept overshooting the zoom and had to help him > set the camera to *slow* zoom speed to not do that. > > > But apart from that, pushbuttons are just an awkward way of doing something > > that can be done much, much more efficiently with a simple manual control. > > It's somewhat like the difference between trying to regulate your speed on > > the highway with the + and - cruise control buttons instead of the far > > simpler accelerator pedal. > > exactly. now watch him point out the advantages of fly by wire. The automotive analogy here is also illustrative: take a look at our car's sound system controls: originally, our old analog radio systems used a dial-based volume control ... a potentiometer. With digitalization, this analog dial component was replaced with up/down pushbuttons. But look now at today's controls and we find that they've gotten rid of the volume pushbuttons and gone back to a human interface for the radio's volume control that's once again a dial. Hmmm... -hh
From: John Navas on 9 Jul 2010 12:26 On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 08:02:42 -0700 (PDT), in <ef901929-92a3-4e6e-bc4e-94e8bc3d90be(a)c33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, -hh <recscuba_google(a)huntzinger.com> wrote: >nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >> Neil Harrington <nob...(a)homehere.net> wrote: >> > ... >> > whereas pushbutton motorized zooms go by steps, you have >> > to be satisfied with "close enough," and not very quickly. >> >> he said a friend of his kept overshooting the zoom and had to help him >> set the camera to *slow* zoom speed to not do that. >> >> > But apart from that, pushbuttons are just an awkward way of doing something >> > that can be done much, much more efficiently with a simple manual control. >> > It's somewhat like the difference between trying to regulate your speed on >> > the highway with the + and - cruise control buttons instead of the far >> > simpler accelerator pedal. >> >> exactly. now watch him point out the advantages of fly by wire. > >The automotive analogy here is also illustrative: take a look at our >car's sound system controls: originally, our old analog radio systems >used a dial-based volume control ... a potentiometer. With >digitalization, this analog dial component was replaced with up/down >pushbuttons. But look now at today's controls and we find that >they've gotten rid of the volume pushbuttons and gone back to a human >interface for the radio's volume control that's once again a dial. >Hmmm... Mine has buttons for stations, seek and scan, plus buttons on the steering wheel for station change. I can't remember the last time I twisted a volume knob. I'm guessing they are for Luddites that can't learn new things. -- John "At every crossway on the road that leads to the future, each progressive spirit is opposed by a thousand men appointed to guard the past." -Maeterlinck
From: John Navas on 9 Jul 2010 12:29 On 9 Jul 2010 05:49:30 GMT, in <89nrjaFqjhU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Chris Malcolm <cam(a)holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote: >Savageduck <savageduck1@{removespam}me.com> wrote: >> On 2010-07-08 12:55:07 -0700, Chris Malcolm <cam(a)holyrood.ed.ac.uk> said: >>> John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:31:43 -0400, in >>>> <seydnXXzTc7lYKjRnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, "Neil Harrington" >>>> <nobody(a)homehere.net> wrote: > >>>>> "Compact" I think is the best used for more or less pocketable cameras >>>>> (Optio 750Z, Coolpix 5900, Powershot S80, etc.) while "ultracompact" should >>>>> be reserved for those cameras that are really shirt-pocket size (Optio S4i, >>>>> Coolpix S510 and thereabouts). >>> >>>> You need to broaden your horizons -- the FZ28 is easily pocketable in >>>> the jackets I use for outdoor shooting. >>> >>> My shooting waistcoat has two big pockets each one of which can easily >>> take a medium sized DSLR fitted with a 500mm reflex lens. > >> A pocketable 500mm !! ??? > >> Model? Specs? Weight? Inquiring minds need to know. > >Google 500mm reflex lens. These catadioptric mirror designs are very >much smaller and lighter than the usual refractor lenses. But they're >fixed aperture, and except for the Minolta/Sony model, manual >focus. But being pocketable and light means you can easily carry one >around just in case and easily use it hand held (with appropriately >high shutter speeds). > >(Except that manually focusing a hand held 500mm is never going to be >easy :-) I've not seen a jacket that could take my Canon Reflex 500mm f/8 Lens even when not on a body -- your pockets must be amazingly HUGE! -- John "Assumption is the mother of all screw ups." [Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: John Navas on 9 Jul 2010 12:31
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 07:30:20 +0100, in <i16flu$mgs$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "David J Taylor" <david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote: >"John Navas" <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message >news:7p5c36tcvs50bg11vumc1dpr3as3f5eha5(a)4ax.com... >[] >>>Superzoom and compact are terms I would quite happily use, while >>>retaining >>>the generic term P&S to cover both. ... >> >> We wouldn't want to miss an opportunity for pejorative bashing, now >> would we. You must be terribly insecure and threatened. > >Take Amazon - they have a category: > > Electronics & Photo, Photography, Digital Cameras, Point & Shoot Digital >Cameras > >where the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ38EB-K Digital Camera is listed. Where Panasonic lists it: "Compact Cameras". -- John "At every crossway on the road that leads to the future, each progressive spirit is opposed by a thousand men appointed to guard the past." -Maeterlinck |