From: GreenXenon on
On May 19, 5:41 pm, Robert Haar <bobh...(a)me.com> wrote:


> On 5/19/10 7:23 PM, "GreenXenon" <glucege...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>


> > On May 19, 3:41 pm, Robert Haar <bobh...(a)me.com> wrote:
>


> >> On 5/19/10 3:00 PM, "GreenXenon" <glucege...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>


> >>> Hi:
>
> >>> My secure dream laptop has following characteristics:
>
> >>> 1. All IDs -- such as the MAC address [including that of the wireless
> >>> adapter] -- are totally dynamic. When the laptop is offed, these IDs
>


> >> "offed" ?  When it is killed, what matters anymore?
>


> > "Offed" as in the power is turned off.


>
> Hmmm .. Must be a local idiom. Why not just say turned off?
>


Sorry.


>
>
> >>> 5. The OS is Macintosh and is installed on ROM chips


>
> >> What happens when Apple releases a bug fix for a security problem? DO you
> >> have to wait for physical distribution of a new set of ROM chips through
> >> trusted channels?


>
> > On a comp without NVRAM there is actually less security concerns than
> > that with NVRAM.


>
> I don't agree. The concerns are different. You reduce one but put all your
> faith in network storage, which increases other risks.
>


Yes but I don't plan to store anything I treasure the networks.


>
>
> > You do have a point, but I feel my dream laptop would be more secure
> > because any malware that enters the laptop by any method -- such as
> > the internet -- will completely disappear as soon as I turn off the
> > power.
>


> It sounds like you think malware is the only security risk. Before going
> further, you need to do a thorough study of computer security.


Okay.


>
> >>> 6. Chips of the hypothetical RAM listed in #3 substitute for the HDD
> >> So you have no long term storage on the laptop? No data? Or do you burn a
> >> new CD every time one byte changes in a data file?
>


> > Depending on the data I either forget about it or store it on the
> > internet.


>
> What about the security risks of using network storage?


I think I may be prepared to handle those.


>
> > This laptop is meant for extreme security and secrecy. I
> > want an easy way to totally and permanently eliminate the data in RAM
> > so that is why I don't want an HDD or any non-volatile RAM for that
> > matter.


>
> People who are professionally paranoid about computer security don't allow
> Internet connects and no removable media. Everything is is a physically
> secured room, preferably a Faraday cage with no windows and independent
> power.
>
>


I'm not that paranoid.


>
> >> Even if you could get one at a reasonable price, I don't think you would
> >> really like using it. I know I wouldn't.
>


> > Why not?


>
> How do you use it when an Internet connection is unavailable? Or when the
> place where you store your data is off line? Even if you have a network
> connection, access to you data is slower than on local storage.


If there is no net connection or if the data storage device is
offline, I can simply wait until both issues are resolved. As for the
data access being slow, that doesn't bother me. Besides I don't plan
to store large files on the internet.

Once again, this laptop is clearly meant for those who wish for all
the info in RAM to be completely and permanently lost 100th-of-a-
second-or-less after the power is turned off.
From: GreenXenon on
On May 19, 6:11 pm, GreenXenon <glucege...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes but I don't plan to store anything I treasure the networks.

Damn Typo!

That should read "Yes but I don't plan to store anything I treasure
*on* the networks."
From: Wes Groleau on
On 05-19-2010 16:25, Jochem Huhmann wrote:
> Anyway, I would like to have these features (as well as some others),

Some of those features are in my MacBook.
Some are useful, but I don't have them.
Others are kind of stupid.

--
Wes Groleau

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From: Wes Groleau on
On 05-19-2010 21:11, GreenXenon wrote:
> Yes but I don't plan to store anything I treasure the networks.

nor, apparently, on the computer, either.

> I'm not that paranoid.

Wow, you sure fooled me!

--
Wes Groleau

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From: Matthew Russotto on
In article <312da57c-3b3a-4096-919e-5f73483abff6(a)g5g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
GreenXenon <glucegen1x(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On May 19, 1:25=A0pm, Jochem Huhmann <j...(a)gmx.net> wrote:
>
>
>> The usual market mechanisms which spit out laptops do not work this way
>> (and they're all very much the same these days). If you would care to
>> build and sell such a laptop you'd find you could not sell these things
>> for the money needed to build them and your company would go bankrupt in
>> no time at all.
>
>
>Why would this hypothetical laptop be so expensive?

Tempest shielding, unobtanium RAM, and physics-defying radio antenna
account for the largest part of it. Low volume would account for the
rest.

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