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From: Roger Mills on 19 May 2010 16:00 I have just bought a new laptop running Windows 7 Professional (32 bit) and have installed XP in a virtual machine to cope with the odd applications[1] which won't run in Win7. One application which will only run in the virtual machine is Jaws PDF Converter - which installs a pseudo printer driver and, when you 'print' with it, a PDF file is produced. I would like to be able to share this 'printer' so that I can print to it from Win7 applications, but I haven't yet succeeded in doing so. I can go into the printer setup menu on the virtual machine and can tell it to share the printer, but I still can't see the 'printer' from the Win7 side. Does anyone know whether this is possible and, if so, how to do it? If I can avoid it, I don't want to have to install all the applications from which I may want to 'print' to PDF files on the virtual machine. [The same would probably apply if I had a *real* printer whose driver only worked in XP, and if I wanted to print to it from Win7.] Another thing which seems odd to me - but perhaps it's to be expected - is that although the Win7 system and the virtual machine share the same physical network card, they've somehow acquired different IP addresses which are not even in the same subnet. This seems to result in a strange combination of what is and isn't visible to what when I try to ping the physical and virtual machines from each other and from other computers in my network. Anyone know what to expect here? I would welcome comments from anyone who has managed to suss this virtual machine business, and whose experience is more extensive than my two days' worth. [1] I've been agreeably surprised with what *will* run in Win7 - including a number of old applications originally written for Win9x! -- Cheers, Roger _______ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked.
From: John Rumm on 19 May 2010 16:24 On 19/05/2010 21:00, Roger Mills wrote: > I have just bought a new laptop running Windows 7 Professional (32 bit) and > have installed XP in a virtual machine to cope with the odd applications[1] > which won't run in Win7. Which virtual PC are you using? The one that comes with win7 (aka "XP Mode") or a bolt on like MS Virtual PC or Citrix? > One application which will only run in the virtual machine is Jaws PDF > Converter - which installs a pseudo printer driver and, when you 'print' > with it, a PDF file is produced. I would like to be able to share this > 'printer' so that I can print to it from Win7 applications, but I haven't > yet succeeded in doing so. I can go into the printer setup menu on the > virtual machine and can tell it to share the printer, but I still can't see > the 'printer' from the Win7 side. Does anyone know whether this is possible > and, if so, how to do it? Have you tried sharing it as a network printer? (that may be what you mean!) > Another thing which seems odd to me - but perhaps it's to be expected - is > that although the Win7 system and the virtual machine share the same > physical network card, they've somehow acquired different IP addresses which > are not even in the same subnet. This seems to result in a strange Which might explain difficulty seeing network resources shared on one machine from the other! Assuming they are both (i.e. win7 and the virtual pc) set to DHCP an address, they ought to grab an address from your DHCP server (usually your router). You can try an "ipconfig /renew" from a command line to force either to go back and get another. The other solution is to assign a fixed ip address to one or both machines. (ideally, tweak the range that the router can hand out to not include your static addresses). > combination of what is and isn't visible to what when I try to ping the > physical and virtual machines from each other and from other computers in my > network. Anyone know what to expect here? If auto configuring they will typically grab consecutive addresses from the router (unless it is a clever one that remembers previous mac address to IP bindings). > I would welcome comments from anyone who has managed to suss this virtual > machine business, and whose experience is more extensive than my two days' > worth. > > > [1] I've been agreeably surprised with what *will* run in Win7 - including a > number of old applications originally written for Win9x! -- Cheers, John. /=================================================================\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \=================================================================/
From: Owain on 19 May 2010 16:33 On 19 May, 21:00, "Roger Mills" wrote: > One application which will only run in the virtual machine is Jaws PDF > Converter - which installs a pseudo printer driver and, when you 'print' > with it, a PDF file is produced. I would like to be able to share this > 'printer' so that I can print to it from Win7 applications, but I haven't > yet succeeded in doing so. Try another PDF 'printer' CutePDF seems popular Owain
From: Adrian C on 19 May 2010 16:53 On 19/05/2010 21:00, Roger Mills wrote: > I have just bought a new laptop running Windows 7 Professional (32 bit) and > have installed XP in a virtual machine to cope with the odd applications[1] > which won't run in Win7. > > One application which will only run in the virtual machine is Jaws PDF > Converter - which installs a pseudo printer driver and, when you 'print' > with it, a PDF file is produced. I would like to be able to share this > 'printer' so that I can print to it from Win7 applications, but I haven't > yet succeeded in doing so. I can go into the printer setup menu on the > virtual machine and can tell it to share the printer, but I still can't see > the 'printer' from the Win7 side. Does anyone know whether this is possible > and, if so, how to do it? > > If I can avoid it, I don't want to have to install all the applications from > which I may want to 'print' to PDF files on the virtual machine. > > [The same would probably apply if I had a *real* printer whose driver only > worked in XP, and if I wanted to print to it from Win7.] > > Another thing which seems odd to me - but perhaps it's to be expected - is > that although the Win7 system and the virtual machine share the same > physical network card, they've somehow acquired different IP addresses which > are not even in the same subnet. At a guess, (I'm a VMWare geek) you need to set virtual hardware support features in Windows 7 so that network services are 'bridged' to the virtual network card in the XP guest, not 'NAT'ed' Oh hang on, lets google 'bridge windows 7 virtual network' <http://blogs.technet.com/windows_vpc/archive/2009/09/26/networking-and-using-windows-xp-mode.aspx> -- Adrian C
From: Roger Mills on 19 May 2010 16:55
In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Owain <spuorgelgoog(a)gowanhill.com> wrote: > On 19 May, 21:00, "Roger Mills" wrote: >> One application which will only run in the virtual machine is Jaws >> PDF Converter - which installs a pseudo printer driver and, when you >> 'print' with it, a PDF file is produced. I would like to be able to >> share this 'printer' so that I can print to it from Win7 >> applications, but I haven't yet succeeded in doing so. > > Try another PDF 'printer' CutePDF seems popular > > Owain That's another possibility, of course! However, I like Jaws because it handles security well (with control over whether the resulting PDF file can be edited, printed, etc.) and it attaches itself to Word's file menu making it very quick to turn a Word document into a PDF file. Having said that, that last bit is unlikely to work if word is installed in Win7 and Jaws in the virtual machine. -- Cheers, Roger _______ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |