From: Savageduck on
On 2009-11-13 08:23:49 -0800, BD <robert.drea(a)gmail.com> said:

> On Nov 9, 3:07�pm, Larry Thong <larry_th...(a)shitstring.com> wrote:
>> Savageduck wrote:
>>>> I've read about 'digital wallets', I've read about using IPod videos
>>>> with a special camera connector... but am wondering if there are other
>>>> better options out there that I might have missed.
>>
>>> Check on the Colorspace UDMA from Hyperdrive;
>>> http://www.hypershop.com/
>>
>> Does things aren't too bad, but $500 for the 500GB makes it a pony show.
>> � I would get an ATOM based Netbook that will give you loads of options
>> and decent storage space in a very small package. �You can always add
>> cheap external USB storage as well. �Trust me, I've got the Epson
>> version of this thing and it just sits in the drawer after the one and
>> only time I used it.
>
> Wanna sell it?? ;)
>
> Seriously... thanks all, for the feedback. I'm kind of on the fence:
> I'm not a laptop-using kind of guy (I have one, and it just gathers
> dust), so the small size of the UDMA is appealing. I'm concerned about
> the device not keeping up with raw file format changes, that kind of
> thing. If I can find a UDMA used, I might consider it - failing that,
> I'll watch for good deals on netbooks. It's a bit more than I'd prefer
> to carry around, but would probably be useful in other contexts as
> well.

Keeping up with RAW is currently not a problem.

The colorspace UDMA is first a field backup device and it records the
files faithfully. I have used it to save D70 and D300 NEFs and when I
got my G11 for which Adobe has yet to update its camera profiles for,
the UDMA was able to handle and display those CR2s without issue.

Any future RAW files, even if their thumbnails are not displayed would
still have the file saved and backed up.

....and I am sure that if Hyperdrive is still in business it will have
firmware updates which would address any other compatibility issues.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

From: -hh on
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> Shawn Hirn <s...(a)comcast.net> said:
> >  BD <robert.d...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Wondering if there's any buzz-worthy devices out there for offloading
> >> images/movies from a CF UDMA card while 'on the go' for longer periods
> >> of time.
>
> >> I've read about 'digital wallets', I've read about using IPod videos
> >> with a special camera connector... but am wondering if there are other
> >> better options out there that I might have missed.

FWIW, I looked into the iPod route 3-4 years ago. At that time, the
transfer speeds were utterly unacceptable. I ended up getting a pair
(redundancy) of the then-new Hyperdrive HD80's. If I were to lose
them, I'd replace them with the same (only newer model) today.

> > A laptop. You can't beat it for capacity and flexibilty. A netbook might
> > be suitable too.
>
> .A laptop can be a squeeze in your pocket. I use a laptop, a Colorspace
> UDMA and a Firewire drive for redundant backup.

A couple of pounds of laptop can also be a non-starter when trying to
fit all of ones gear *and clothing* into a 15kg weight limit on bush
planes, etc. Ditto for when you need to have something that can do
XX GB amount of data backups on but a single battery recharge.

The good news is that Flash Memory has gotten tremendously cheaper
over the past few years, so the choice of a dedicated wallet-esque
device can be considered vs. the alternative of simply buying gobs of
reasonably fast CF/SD cards.


-hh
From: GMAN on
In article <b03cc907-b8de-409c-b94b-84554686f792(a)r31g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, -hh <recscuba_google(a)huntzinger.com> wrote:
>Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> Shawn Hirn <s...(a)comcast.net> said:
>> > =A0BD <robert.d...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Wondering if there's any buzz-worthy devices out there for offloading
>> >> images/movies from a CF UDMA card while 'on the go' for longer periods
>> >> of time.
>>
>> >> I've read about 'digital wallets', I've read about using IPod videos
>> >> with a special camera connector... but am wondering if there are other
>> >> better options out there that I might have missed.
>
>FWIW, I looked into the iPod route 3-4 years ago. At that time, the
>transfer speeds were utterly unacceptable. I ended up getting a pair
>(redundancy) of the then-new Hyperdrive HD80's. If I were to lose
>them, I'd replace them with the same (only newer model) today.
>
>> > A laptop. You can't beat it for capacity and flexibilty. A netbook migh=
>t
>> > be suitable too.
>>
>> .A laptop can be a squeeze in your pocket. I use a laptop, a Colorspace
>> UDMA and a Firewire drive for redundant backup.
>
>A couple of pounds of laptop can also be a non-starter when trying to
>fit all of ones gear *and clothing* into a 15kg weight limit on bush
>planes, etc. Ditto for when you need to have something that can do
>XX GB amount of data backups on but a single battery recharge.
>
>The good news is that Flash Memory has gotten tremendously cheaper
>over the past few years, so the choice of a dedicated wallet-esque
>device can be considered vs. the alternative of simply buying gobs of
>reasonably fast CF/SD cards.
>
>
>-hh
Agreed, the 32GB SSHD cards i have store well over 10000 pics at the highest
setting on my camera.

From: Savageduck on
On 2009-11-15 13:09:34 -0800, winniethepooh(a)100acrewoods.com (GMAN) said:

> In article
> <b03cc907-b8de-409c-b94b-84554686f792(a)r31g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> -hh <recscuba_google(a)huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> Shawn Hirn <s...(a)comcast.net> said:
>>>> =A0BD <robert.d...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Wondering if there's any buzz-worthy devices out there for offloading
>>>>> images/movies from a CF UDMA card while 'on the go' for longer periods
>>>>> of time.
>>>
>>>>> I've read about 'digital wallets', I've read about using IPod videos
>>>>> with a special camera connector... but am wondering if there are other
>>>>> better options out there that I might have missed.
>>
>> FWIW, I looked into the iPod route 3-4 years ago. At that time, the
>> transfer speeds were utterly unacceptable. I ended up getting a pair
>> (redundancy) of the then-new Hyperdrive HD80's. If I were to lose
>> them, I'd replace them with the same (only newer model) today.
>>
>>>> A laptop. You can't beat it for capacity and flexibilty. A netbook migh=
>> t
>>>> be suitable too.
>>>
>>> .A laptop can be a squeeze in your pocket. I use a laptop, a Colorspace
>>> UDMA and a Firewire drive for redundant backup.
>>
>> A couple of pounds of laptop can also be a non-starter when trying to
>> fit all of ones gear *and clothing* into a 15kg weight limit on bush
>> planes, etc. Ditto for when you need to have something that can do
>> XX GB amount of data backups on but a single battery recharge.
>>
>> The good news is that Flash Memory has gotten tremendously cheaper
>> over the past few years, so the choice of a dedicated wallet-esque
>> device can be considered vs. the alternative of simply buying gobs of
>> reasonably fast CF/SD cards.
>>
>>
>> -hh
> Agreed, the 32GB SSHD cards i have store well over 10000 pics at the highest
> setting on my camera.

Certainly 32GB is going to to give you plenty of space to shoot all
day, probably all vacation, or professional shoot, however to trust all
of those shots to a single card is foolish.

What do you do for a redundant backup of that card in the field, or
even back at the hotel, or camp site? You have no way of ensuring
backup until you get to a computer. In a studio where you have direct
access to a computer the single card might be just fine. At a camp site
you may have no access to a computer. My Colorspace UDMA has sufficient
battery power to make incremental backups for many days.

With 2 cards of any size (probably 8GB to 32GB would be optimal) and a
CS UDMA, keeping one card in the camera and one card in the CS UDMA,
you can periodically, through your shooting day, swap cards and make an
incremental backup into a single folder in the CS UDMA. You don't even
have to watch the CS UDMA, start the incremental backup, put it back
into your pocket or bag, and it will power down once it has done its
job. That way you have the first step in making a backup way before you
get to a computer to make the next copy.


--
Regards,

Savageduck

From: Wolfgang Weisselberg on
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> What do you do for a redundant backup of that card

use a camera that has 2 slots and allows simultaneous use.
No other way (outside transmitting the image via WiFi or firewire
or similar to a second location --- which can be hard in the
field), if you always need a redundant backup.

-Wolfgang