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From: SM on 9 Aug 2010 08:22
The new Mac Pros have a delivery time of a coule of weeks - anyone
ordering?

The cards are in the store too - Radeon HD 5770 at �199 looks to be a
bit of a snip but specifies 2010 Pros as compatible: "Requires Mac Pro
(Mid 2010 with 1333MHz DDR3 memory)"

The 5880 includes the 2009 Pros: "Requires Mac Pro (Mid 2010 with
1333MHz DDR3 memory) or Mac Pro (Early 2009 with 1066MHz DDR3 memory)
with PCI Express 2.0 slot" but no price or delivery. I'm interested
whether either will work in my 2008 machine with its 800MHz DDR2.

Stuart
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From: Adrian on 9 Aug 2010 08:30
info(a)that.sundog.co.uk (SM) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> The cards are in the store too - Radeon HD 5770 at £199 looks to be a
> bit of a snip

A quick google finds it for £80 cheaper elsewhere...
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 9 Aug 2010 09:35
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 13:22:46 +0100, info(a)that.sundog.co.uk (SM) wrote:

>The new Mac Pros have a delivery time of a coule of weeks - anyone
>ordering?
>
>The cards are in the store too - Radeon HD 5770 at �199 looks to be a
>bit of a snip but specifies 2010 Pros as compatible: "Requires Mac Pro
>(Mid 2010 with 1333MHz DDR3 memory)"
>
>The 5880 includes the 2009 Pros: "Requires Mac Pro (Mid 2010 with
>1333MHz DDR3 memory) or Mac Pro (Early 2009 with 1066MHz DDR3 memory)
>with PCI Express 2.0 slot" but no price or delivery. I'm interested
>whether either will work in my 2008 machine with its 800MHz DDR2.

I've never understood Apple's system requirements for video cards. Why
would memory speed make any difference when it doesn't in standard PC
boxes? Why specify "PCIe 2.0 slot" when all of them are? Why won't
they just work in any Mac with PCIe 2.0 slots and up-to-date OSX for
the drivers?

Am I missing some vital knowledge, or are Apple just being funny
buggers?

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Chris Ridd on 9 Aug 2010 10:56
On 2010-08-09 14:35:19 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh said:

> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 13:22:46 +0100, info(a)that.sundog.co.uk (SM) wrote:
>
>> The new Mac Pros have a delivery time of a coule of weeks - anyone
>> ordering?
>>
>> The cards are in the store too - Radeon HD 5770 at �199 looks to be a
>> bit of a snip but specifies 2010 Pros as compatible: "Requires Mac Pro
>> (Mid 2010 with 1333MHz DDR3 memory)"
>>
>> The 5880 includes the 2009 Pros: "Requires Mac Pro (Mid 2010 with
>> 1333MHz DDR3 memory) or Mac Pro (Early 2009 with 1066MHz DDR3 memory)
>> with PCI Express 2.0 slot" but no price or delivery. I'm interested
>> whether either will work in my 2008 machine with its 800MHz DDR2.
>
> I've never understood Apple's system requirements for video cards. Why
> would memory speed make any difference when it doesn't in standard PC
> boxes? Why specify "PCIe 2.0 slot" when all of them are? Why won't
> they just work in any Mac with PCIe 2.0 slots and up-to-date OSX for
> the drivers?
>
> Am I missing some vital knowledge, or are Apple just being funny
> buggers?

I'm pretty sure they're just using those specs to say nothing older
than those particular machines over there. No, not those ones, *those*
ones. Yes, we know they look the same, and are called the same name.

Maybe there are also bugs in certain machine chipsets that cause
problems with these cards, dunno.

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Chris

From: Adrian on 9 Aug 2010 10:59
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

> Am I missing some vital knowledge, or are Apple just being funny
> buggers?

It's so they can persuade people that paying £200 for a £120 video card
is a "bit of a snip".
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