From: John Bowling on
I had 11.2 32 bit installed and ran into a problem with ext4 (/ partition
only) and as expected, the installation DVDs repair system wouldn't even
try to fix it.

So I did what I should have done - reinstalled (with 64 bit) and changed to
ext3. I had kde 4.4 installed, but now the repository where it was is no
longer, so I've got kde 4.3 and have a couple of problems:

Even though I have set the default browser to Firefox, it always defaults to
Konqueror except when I specifically start Firefox. I didn't have that
problem with the 32 bit version with either kde 4.3 or 4.4.

I also had pan installed and there is no longer pan anywhere on the
repositories. 32 bit only? It was the best of the news readers.

I tried slrn and it refused to create the file needed to start up properly,
as myself or root.

John
From: David Bolt on
On Monday 07 Jun 2010 23:43, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
John Bowling painted this mural:

> I had 11.2 32 bit installed and ran into a problem with ext4 (/ partition
> only) and as expected, the installation DVDs repair system wouldn't even
> try to fix it.

No comments as yet. I haven't had any issues that have required using
the repair system to fix. I've managed all my problems just by using
the rescue system.

> So I did what I should have done - reinstalled (with 64 bit) and changed to
> ext3. I had kde 4.4 installed, but now the repository where it was is no
> longer, so I've got kde 4.3 and have a couple of problems:

Which repos did you add? The various versions are available using
KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop for KDE4.3.5, KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop for
KDE4.4, KDE:KDE4:UNSTABLE:Desktop for the KDE4.5 development snapshots.

> Even though I have set the default browser to Firefox, it always defaults to
> Konqueror except when I specifically start Firefox. I didn't have that
> problem with the 32 bit version with either kde 4.3 or 4.4.

Can't suggest a fix for that as I have Konqueror as my default browser.

> I also had pan installed and there is no longer pan anywhere on the
> repositories. 32 bit only? It was the best of the news readers.

davjam(a)moray:~/sync> zypper se -s pan
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository
--+-----------------------------------+------------+-----------------+--------+---------------------------------
<snip>
i | pan | package | 0.133-127.1 | x86_64 | Buildservice_home_davjam79
v | pan | package | 0.133-127.1 | i586 | Buildservice_home_davjam79
v | pan | package | 0.133-5.2 | x86_64 | 11.2_mirror
v | pan | package | 0.133-5.2 | i586 | 11.2_mirror
<snip>

11.2_mirror is my local 11.2 mirror, the buildservice_home_davjam79 is
my home project. You can find both packages using:

<http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=pan&baseproject=openSUSE:11.2>

> I tried slrn and it refused to create the file needed to start up properly,
> as myself or root.

It's been a while since I played about with slrn. Must do so again,
just to see if I can tweak some noses again :-)


Regards,
David Bolt

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From: John Bowling on
houghi wrote:

> David Bolt wrote:
>> On Monday 07 Jun 2010 23:43, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
>> John Bowling painted this mural:
>>
>>> I had 11.2 32 bit installed and ran into a problem with ext4 (/
>>> partition
>>> only) and as expected, the installation DVDs repair system wouldn't
>>> even try to fix it.
>>
>> No comments as yet. I haven't had any issues that have required using
>> the repair system to fix. I've managed all my problems just by using
>> the rescue system.
>
> That is already very odd. I can read it in several ways
> 1) There was nothing broken, so nothing to fix
> 2) The DVD was broken
> 3) The system was so broken, it could not be repaired
>
> <snip>
>
>>> Even though I have set the default browser to Firefox, it always
>>> defaults to Konqueror except when I specifically start Firefox. I didn't
>>> have that problem with the 32 bit version with either kde 4.3 or 4.4.
>>
>> Can't suggest a fix for that as I have Konqueror as my default browser.
>
> Mmm. Weird. Two things possible.
> 1) The change was not done correctly (human error)
> 2) The change is not read correctly (technical issue)
>
> <snip>
>
>>> I tried slrn and it refused to create the file needed to start up
>>> properly, as myself or root.
>>
>> It's been a while since I played about with slrn. Must do so again,
>> just to see if I can tweak some noses again :-)
>
> I have never had slrn refused to create the file. I asume it is known
> that the first time you need to run it as:
> slrn -f /home/user/.jnewsrc --create
>
> So what would be the error that you get when you run it. Here an example
> of mine where root gets an error:
> penne:~ # slrn -f /media/backup/penne/.jnewsrc --create
> slrn 0.9.8.1pl1 [2005-02-17]
>
> Using newsrc file /media/backup/penne/.jnewsrc for server news.slrn
> fatal error:
> Unable to create lock file /media/backup/penne/.jnewsrc-lock.
>
> The reason for the error is that that partition is read-only. The reason
> I bring this up is because the default also does not keep. So my
> suspicion of the whole problem is the HD. I think that the first susect
> was EXT4 as there was a change to EXT3 and yet the problem did not go
> away.
>
> My best guess on the information available is that the HD is on its way
> to the eternal bit in the sky. Try with another HD and see if the
> problem still exists.
>
> houghi
I did use the command (slrn -f /home/john/.jnewsrc --create) to create the
file, which it refused to do, and nothing else has problems in that newly
formatted ext3 partition. I kept the origional / and /home for the old
install intact and made new ones for this install. I prefer making a new
/home so that it starts out fresh without some weird setting from the old
setup. I then copy over only what's needed to get useful things back.

The hard drive is not new, but has no other failures other than that ext4
problem.

The change to set Firefox as default is both in Firefox when it asked, and
under the kde menu Default Applications web browser. It has a browse button
which brings up the same menu list and allows selection of Firefox (shows
up
as "firefox %u".

Perhaps I should try again with a brand new drive, which I have setting
here
waiting to go into another system, and copy my data to it.

It depends on Dave's recommendations for repositories. Kde 4.4 was working
well for me before my ext4 problem.

Also, news.mixmin.net allows reading of everything, but does not let me
post, with or without a password in Knode. I created an account on their web
site. I cancelled GigaNews, and have until the end of the month with
news.cox.net. I noticed that GigaNews filtered which postings were available
beyond removing spam. mixmin does a good job of spam removal vs cox.

Thanks
John
From: JT on
On 08/06/10 18:23, houghi wrote:
> John Bowling wrote:
>
>> I did use the command (slrn -f /home/john/.jnewsrc --create) to create the
>> file, which it refused to do, and nothing else has problems in that newly
>> formatted ext3 partition.
>>
> Any message it gave? Are you able to make the file manually?
>
>
>> The hard drive is not new, but has no other failures other than that ext4
>> problem.
>>
> And now these problems.
>
> <snip>
>
>> Also, news.mixmin.net allows reading of everything, but does not let me
>> post, with or without a password in Knode. I created an account on their web
>> site. I cancelled GigaNews, and have until the end of the month with
>> news.cox.net. I noticed that GigaNews filtered which postings were available
>> beyond removing spam. mixmin does a good job of spam removal vs cox.
>>
> There are many free news servers that are free.
>
It's even better: _all_ free news servers are free ;-)
> houghi
>


--
Kind regards, JT

From: Darklight on
John Bowling wrote:

> I had 11.2 32 bit installed and ran into a problem with ext4 (/ partition
> only) and as expected, the installation DVDs repair system wouldn't even
> try to fix it.
>
> So I did what I should have done - reinstalled (with 64 bit) and changed to
> ext3. I had kde 4.4 installed, but now the repository where it was is no
> longer, so I've got kde 4.3 and have a couple of problems:

Is both your root directory and home directory ext3. I had problems with
11.2 when i first installed it. 11.2 converted my root directory to ext4
and left my home directory ext3. This caused me problems no end, did you
format your home partition when you reinstalled the 64bit version.Check
you home directory and see what are 32bit packages compared to 64bit
packages.

Second as you went from 32 bit to 64 bit. I would suggest using a third
party partition manager to do a secure delete then reinstall, os of
choice.

For i have suffered from bleed through in the past.

Concerning kde4.4.3 it is there in the opensuse repositories, i just
updated as i wrote this. that being said i use the 32 bit version of
11.2.