Network Diagram - Configure to show Forward Pass/Backward Pass
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From: JulieS on 30 May 2010 09:23 I don't think you need to take the approach you're trying to do. You can calculate the information using the Project Start date to get the cumulative values. In Project, you cannot reference another task's data through a formula. Post the formula you are using to convert and perhaps we can be of more assistance. Julie Project MVP Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information about Microsoft Project On 5/30/2010 12:27 AM, m3lyssa wrote: > Thank you, Julie. The formula that I have converts the start and finish > dates to numbers. I can't figure out how to get each box to take the finish > date from box 'A' and add the duration from box 'B' to get the cumulative > figures. My boxes are currently configured like this... > > 0 Duration 10 10 0 Duration 5 5 0 Duration 2 > 0 10 0 5 0 > 2 > > I would like them to look like this... > > 0 Duration 10 10 11 Duration 5 16 17 Duration 2 19 > 0 10 11 16 17 > 19 > > I am trying to figure out if it is a formula that would do is or if it is > code I need to enter into VBE? If it is a formula I would assume I would > have to use the rollup feature... > > Thanks for your time and help. > > > "JulieS" wrote: > >> Hello m3lyssa, >> >> If I understand you correctly, you've calculated the desired >> value and now want to format the Network nodes (box) to include >> the value? >> >> Assuming you're using Project 2003 or 2007, display the Network >> Diagram view and choose Format> Box Styles. Click the More >> Templates button and in the Data Templates, dialog, select an >> existing template and copy it. Give the new template a name in >> the Data Definition dialog window. Towards the bottom of the >> Data Definition dialog window in the "Choose Cells" section you >> can specify which fields to place in which area. >> >> I hope this helps. Let us know how you get along. >> >> Julie >> Project MVP >> >> Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional >> information about Microsoft Project >> >> On 5/29/2010 8:42 PM, m3lyssa wrote: >>> I'm taking a PM class and our instructor had us manually create a network >>> diagram so that we could learn how the forward pass and backward pass are >>> calculated. He also said that the network diagram in project can be >>> configured to show the calculations as well. For example... 0 10 Days >>> Duration 10 instead of dates. I have figured out how to reflect this in >>> diagram box but cannot get it to add the ten days to the duration on the >>> following box. I created a custom number field with a formula to get it to >>> show what is in the example based on my tasks. Any one know how to get the >>> print out to show as it would if it were manually calculated? Thanks! >> . >>
From: "Steve House" sjhouse at hotmail dot on 30 May 2010 09:38 You could probably do it with VBA but it would be more trouble than it's worth. Task information fields like that don't 'span' across multiple tasks, ie, if you had two tasks A and B you could not create a calculated field such that the calculation for task B picks up information from a field for task A. I just realized I made an error in the calculation for LS and LF though. They actually should be =ProjDateDiff([ProjectStart],[LateStart])/[MinutesPerDay] and ProjDateDiff([LateFinish],[ProjectStart])/[MinutesPerDay] respectively, referencing days from project start rather than days backwards from project finish. The EarlyStart, EarlyFinish, LateStart, And LateFinish fields are calculated and maintained as dates by Project and are already built-in. The formlas I suggest are to give you days from Day Zero (Start) instead of dates. The method I gave you does give you cumulative values. Suppose you have Start (Milestone, Mon 30 May) -->Task A (5d) --> Task B (3d) -->Task C (4d) --> Finish (Milestone) Start: Day 0 Task A: ES=0, EF=5, LS=0, LF=5 Task B: ES=5, EF=8, LS=5, LF=8 Task C: ES=8, EF=12, LS=8, LF=12 Finish : Day 12 Now add Task X, duration 5 days, after Task B and running in parallel with it, linked A-->X-->C. We have two paths, A->B->C and A->X->C. The critical path is now S-A-X-C-F and B has some slack. Start: Day 0 Task A: ES=0, EF=5, LS=0, LF=5 Task B: ES=5, EF=8, LS=7, LF=10 (Slack = LF-EF = 2day) Task X: ES=5, EF=10, LS = 5, LF = 10 Task C: ES=10, EF=14, LS=10, LF=14 Finish : Day 14 HTH -- Steve House MS Project Trainer & Consultant "m3lyssa" <m3lyssa(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F8C6B51D-3385-49FF-880F-B1FAAED042A3(a)microsoft.com... > Thank you, Steve! Is there a way to to get each box to take the finish > date from box 'A' and add the duration from box 'B' to get the cumulative > figures? My boxes are currently configured like this... > > 0 Duration 10 10 0 Duration 5 5 > 0 10 0 5 > > > I would like them to look like this... Cumulative. > > 0 Duration 10 10 11 Duration 5 16 > 0 10 10 16 > > Thanks for your help and time. > > > "Steve House" wrote: > >> Use the Customize Fields tool to define four custom number fields ES, LS, >> EF, and LF. >> >> ES = ProjectDateDiff([ProjectStart],[EarlyStart])/[MinutesPerDay] >> EF = ProjectDateDiff([ProjectStart],[EarlyFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >> LS = ProjectDateDiff([LateStart],[ProjectFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >> LF = ProjectDateDiff([LateFinish],[ProjectFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >> >> Then set up your Network Diagram template so each box displays the task >> name, duration, and the four above calculated fields. >> -- >> Steve House >> MS Project Trainer & Consultant >> >> >> "m3lyssa" <m3lyssa(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:F1E81769-0904-48CC-81C9-022710FA6F22(a)microsoft.com... >> > I'm taking a PM class and our instructor had us manually create a >> > network >> > diagram so that we could learn how the forward pass and backward pass >> > are >> > calculated. He also said that the network diagram in project can be >> > configured to show the calculations as well. For example... 0 10 >> > Days >> > Duration 10 instead of dates. I have figured out how to reflect this >> > in >> > diagram box but cannot get it to add the ten days to the duration on >> > the >> > following box. I created a custom number field with a formula to get >> > it >> > to >> > show what is in the example based on my tasks. Any one know how to get >> > the >> > print out to show as it would if it were manually calculated? Thanks! >> >> . >>
From: JulieS on 30 May 2010 09:53 One quick correction, the function is ProjDateDiff not ProjectDateDiff Julie Project MVP Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information about Microsoft Project On 5/30/2010 4:40 AM, Steve House wrote: > Use the Customize Fields tool to define four custom number fields ES, > LS, EF, and LF. > > ES = ProjectDateDiff([ProjectStart],[EarlyStart])/[MinutesPerDay] > EF = ProjectDateDiff([ProjectStart],[EarlyFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] > LS = ProjectDateDiff([LateStart],[ProjectFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] > LF = ProjectDateDiff([LateFinish],[ProjectFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] > > Then set up your Network Diagram template so each box displays the task > name, duration, and the four above calculated fields.
From: "Steve House" sjhouse at hotmail dot on 30 May 2010 14:50 Yes, thanks. Senior moment there. Also, my original use of the ProjectFinish date for the LateStart and LateFinish calculations is also an error - all four of the values should be refrencig the Project Start date as Day Zero. Steve "JulieS" <JulieS(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uDUBQ%23$$KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > One quick correction, the function is > ProjDateDiff not ProjectDateDiff > > Julie > Project MVP > > Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional > information about Microsoft Project > > On 5/30/2010 4:40 AM, Steve House wrote: >> Use the Customize Fields tool to define four custom number fields ES, >> LS, EF, and LF. >> >> ES = ProjectDateDiff([ProjectStart],[EarlyStart])/[MinutesPerDay] >> EF = ProjectDateDiff([ProjectStart],[EarlyFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >> LS = ProjectDateDiff([LateStart],[ProjectFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >> LF = ProjectDateDiff([LateFinish],[ProjectFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >> >> Then set up your Network Diagram template so each box displays the task >> name, duration, and the four above calculated fields.
From: JulieS on 30 May 2010 15:26
You're welcome Steve. I saw you posted the correction after I posted. Sorry, we must have crossed paths. I'm guessing you know of the new forums for Project. A forum on "Answers" that Project shares with Access, InfoPath, & Visio: http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/addbuz/threads And technet forums: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/projectserver2010,projectprofessional2010 Despite the "2010" in the URL, they are for all versions. Looking forward to seeing you and your wisdom there! Julie Project MVP Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional information about Microsoft Project On 5/30/2010 2:50 PM, Steve House wrote: > Yes, thanks. Senior moment there. Also, my original use of the > ProjectFinish date for the LateStart and LateFinish calculations is also > an error - all four of the values should be refrencig the Project Start > date as Day Zero. > > Steve > > > "JulieS" <JulieS(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:uDUBQ%23$$KHA.4308(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> One quick correction, the function is >> ProjDateDiff not ProjectDateDiff >> >> Julie >> Project MVP >> >> Visit http://project.mvps.org/ for the FAQs and additional >> information about Microsoft Project >> >> On 5/30/2010 4:40 AM, Steve House wrote: >>> Use the Customize Fields tool to define four custom number fields ES, >>> LS, EF, and LF. >>> >>> ES = ProjectDateDiff([ProjectStart],[EarlyStart])/[MinutesPerDay] >>> EF = ProjectDateDiff([ProjectStart],[EarlyFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >>> LS = ProjectDateDiff([LateStart],[ProjectFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >>> LF = ProjectDateDiff([LateFinish],[ProjectFinish])/[MinutesPerDay] >>> >>> Then set up your Network Diagram template so each box displays the task >>> name, duration, and the four above calculated fields. > |