From: Bruce on
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:46:27 -0800, Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net>
wrote:
>I'm tempted to cheat this mandate by using a 50mm reversed on bellows
>for a macro shot <g> but I won't.


As a *photographer* you ought to know that the bellows extension would
mean that the field of view was very much less than 46.8 degrees.

From: Troy Piggins on
* tony cooper wrote :
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:44:50 -0500, Bowser <Canon(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote:
>
>>OK, here's the new mandate for the Shoot In, due January 17th, 2010.
>>Let's simplify things this month. Drag out those 50mm primes and shoot
>>a pic using nothing but that, or whatever lens you have that provides
>>the equivilant angle of view of, yes, 46.8 degrees. Use a zoom if you
>>like, but lock it at "50." Fire at will...
>>
>>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/468_degrees
>>
>>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/rulzpage
>
> I don't understand. I had prime lenses when I was shooting film, but
> all I have now are zoom lenses including an 18/55. Does that mean I
> shoot at 50?
>
> Does it mean no cropping? Just resizing?

Yeah mate, challenge yourself. As Bowser said, lock the zoom at
50 (or crop equiv) and no cropping. :)

--
Troy Piggins
From: Robert Coe on
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:46:27 -0800, Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net> wrote:
: Bruce wrote:
: >
: > That's not a "mandate".
:
: Why so grumpy?
: I don't recall you ever participated in any way.
:
: I didn't submit for games because I guess I'm not a very fun guy <g>, I
: just couldn't think of anything. I did think of shooting the sketchy
: looking chess players downtown who play for money on the sidewalk but
: didn't really feel like getting in their faces and didn't make it
: downtown during the month. They don't play for fun anyways... very
: serious. Anyways I didn't submit but I didn't complain either.
:
: I'm tempted to cheat this mandate by using a 50mm reversed on bellows
: for a macro shot <g> but I won't.

Go for it! Part of the fun is to see how far you can bend the mandate without
making it break.

(As is callng out gutless cowards who sneer at everybody else's submissions
without either providing any substantive criticism or contributing any work of
their own.)

Bob
From: Robert Spanjaard on
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:21:12 -0500, Robert Coe wrote:

> : Right. Maybe that's why certain French photographer/artists shot
> : nothing but a 50mm lens. What was that guy's name?
>
> OK, Bruce, let's see how much you know. Who is Bowser talking abut? a)
> Charles de Gaulle
> b) Henri Cartier-Bresson
> c) Philippe Pétain
> d) Philippe Petit
> e) Napoléon Bonaparte

My guess, without using Google or Wikipedia etc, is Henri. At least I know
he was a street photographer and he always went for the decisive moment
(sometimes staged, though, like a girl jumping on a stairway outside), and
I just assume that he used fairly standard equipment for it.
I don't remember any special equipment.

And he's the only one from the list that I know as a photographer. :-)

BTW, IIRC Time-photographers only used 50mm too for quite a while.

--
Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com
From: Robert Coe on
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:28:43 +1000, Troy Piggins <usenet-0912(a)piggo.com>
wrote:
: * tony cooper wrote :
: > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:44:50 -0500, Bowser <Canon(a)Nikon.Panny> wrote:
: >
: >>OK, here's the new mandate for the Shoot In, due January 17th, 2010.
: >>Let's simplify things this month. Drag out those 50mm primes and shoot
: >>a pic using nothing but that, or whatever lens you have that provides
: >>the equivilant angle of view of, yes, 46.8 degrees. Use a zoom if you
: >>like, but lock it at "50." Fire at will...
: >>
: >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/468_degrees
: >>
: >>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/rulzpage
: >
: > I don't understand. I had prime lenses when I was shooting film, but
: > all I have now are zoom lenses including an 18/55. Does that mean I
: > shoot at 50?
: >
: > Does it mean no cropping? Just resizing?
:
: Yeah mate, challenge yourself. As Bowser said, lock the zoom at
: 50 (or crop equiv) and no cropping. :)

I don't believe he said no cropping.

Bob