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From: Joseph M. Newcomer on 25 Jun 2010 21:21
I did report it, and checked for several days for an answer. Go back to the item where
you released the e-level release...
joe

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:50:42 -0400, Hector Santos <sant9442(a)nospam.gmail.com> wrote:

>Joseph M. Newcomer wrote:
>
>> I leave Sunday for San Jose, and will not return until after this NG is "officially"
>> closed. So I don't know what is going to happen.
>>
>> I tried to install Hector's NNTP Bridge but it keeps telling me a DLL is missing, and I
>> gave up.
>
>
>Dude, I am right here! Report it!. The latest available (v1.0G I
>think) has been been stable. I'm up to v1.0L and working with Alan
>Montgomery to deal with many issues related to the web service that
>has some critical issues we have to kludge around.
>
>But hey, I'm here - REPORT and I FIX :) You have my email at
>sant9442(a)gmail.com
>
>> So it may be a while before I reappear. I will still be active until late Saturday night.
>
>
>I really don't think MS realize the major dent it it doing by killing
>critical NGs, like this one and others. Even with the Forums and I
>have been deeply with it and also using the MS FORUMS, there is a
>serious disconnect that leaves a bitterness in people.
>
>My opinion:
>
>1) It seems everyone uses alias names - you get no personal
>interaction with people. No big deal, I went thru that phrase too to
>be anonymous in nature.
>
>2) It seems people are hell bent on getting to mark their replies
>marked as an ANSWER as if there is some major competition going on. So
>you see post with reminders at the bottom. I guess that might be good
>of they were really good answer, but it seems odd as you already see
>people telling others "don't mark it as an answer if it isn't." :)
>
>3) The interface still needs work to "find things" It is ok, as long
>as you book mark your forums. In wcLEX I added a Newsgroup search
>feature that helps to find newsgroup forums based on the forum title
>and description because the newsgroup names can be obscure.
>
>4) They really need an option to turn off HTML for user input. It
>broken in many ways and its very hard to cut and paste from/to your
>external notes to a message as the font changes forcing you to go into
>HTML EDITOR mode to fix up the rendering. A pure TEXT input is all
>80% people need. This will also greatly simplify the NNTP Bridge
>proxies who have to go thru some transformations to make it appear right.
>
>Thats it off the top of my head, but overall, I seriously think MS has
>no IDEAL the onslaught of issues once they stop the NG services and
>people begin, out of no other choice, to switch to MS FORUMS or the
>bridges. The crying and whining will begin en masse. There are some
>serious bugs (at least 2) with the WEB SERVICE API the Bridges use and
>thus far, we found no solution and Alan and I are spending an a lot of
>time trying to come up with a reasonable workaround targeted at the
>first time installer.
Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
email: newcomer(a)flounder.com
Web: http://www.flounder.com
MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm
From: Hector Santos on 25 Jun 2010 23:20
hmmmm, I don't see a message from you linked to that v1.0E release
announcement. I must of missed your message, sorry Joe.

If you like you can get the latest beta at:

http://opensite.winserver.com/wclex/wcLiveExchange.Setup.msi

Its pretty solid I think. You should have a missing DLL problem. I
hope not, But if you do, please let me know. :)

--


Joseph M. Newcomer wrote:

> I did report it, and checked for several days for an answer. Go back to the item where
> you released the e-level release...
> joe
>
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:50:42 -0400, Hector Santos <sant9442(a)nospam.gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Joseph M. Newcomer wrote:
>>
>>> I leave Sunday for San Jose, and will not return until after this NG is "officially"
>>> closed. So I don't know what is going to happen.
>>>
>>> I tried to install Hector's NNTP Bridge but it keeps telling me a DLL is missing, and I
>>> gave up.
>>
>> Dude, I am right here! Report it!. The latest available (v1.0G I
>> think) has been been stable. I'm up to v1.0L and working with Alan
>> Montgomery to deal with many issues related to the web service that
>> has some critical issues we have to kludge around.
>>
>> But hey, I'm here - REPORT and I FIX :) You have my email at
>> sant9442(a)gmail.com
>>
>>> So it may be a while before I reappear. I will still be active until late Saturday night.
>>
>> I really don't think MS realize the major dent it it doing by killing
>> critical NGs, like this one and others. Even with the Forums and I
>> have been deeply with it and also using the MS FORUMS, there is a
>> serious disconnect that leaves a bitterness in people.
>>
>> My opinion:
>>
>> 1) It seems everyone uses alias names - you get no personal
>> interaction with people. No big deal, I went thru that phrase too to
>> be anonymous in nature.
>>
>> 2) It seems people are hell bent on getting to mark their replies
>> marked as an ANSWER as if there is some major competition going on. So
>> you see post with reminders at the bottom. I guess that might be good
>> of they were really good answer, but it seems odd as you already see
>> people telling others "don't mark it as an answer if it isn't." :)
>>
>> 3) The interface still needs work to "find things" It is ok, as long
>> as you book mark your forums. In wcLEX I added a Newsgroup search
>> feature that helps to find newsgroup forums based on the forum title
>> and description because the newsgroup names can be obscure.
>>
>> 4) They really need an option to turn off HTML for user input. It
>> broken in many ways and its very hard to cut and paste from/to your
>> external notes to a message as the font changes forcing you to go into
>> HTML EDITOR mode to fix up the rendering. A pure TEXT input is all
>> 80% people need. This will also greatly simplify the NNTP Bridge
>> proxies who have to go thru some transformations to make it appear right.
>>
>> Thats it off the top of my head, but overall, I seriously think MS has
>> no IDEAL the onslaught of issues once they stop the NG services and
>> people begin, out of no other choice, to switch to MS FORUMS or the
>> bridges. The crying and whining will begin en masse. There are some
>> serious bugs (at least 2) with the WEB SERVICE API the Bridges use and
>> thus far, we found no solution and Alan and I are spending an a lot of
>> time trying to come up with a reasonable workaround targeted at the
>> first time installer.
> Joseph M. Newcomer [MVP]
> email: newcomer(a)flounder.com
> Web: http://www.flounder.com
> MVP Tips: http://www.flounder.com/mvp_tips.htm



--
HLS
From: Giovanni Dicanio on 26 Jun 2010 05:53
On 25/06/2010 21:33, Joseph M. Newcomer wrote:

> I leave Sunday for San Jose,

Wow: enjoy the sun and the beach of the California! (famous worldwide :)


Giovanni
From: David Ching on 26 Jun 2010 11:46
"Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanniDOTdicanio(a)REMOVEMEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:eSqW#VRFLHA.5448(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Wow: enjoy the sun and the beach of the California! (famous worldwide :)
>

The beach is an hour away, and it's been cooler than normal. It doesn't yet
feel quite like summer. :-(

-- David

From: Hector Santos on 26 Jun 2010 14:30
David Ching wrote:

> "Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanniDOTdicanio(a)REMOVEMEgmail.com> wrote in
> message news:eSqW#VRFLHA.5448(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Wow: enjoy the sun and the beach of the California! (famous worldwide :)
>>
>
> The beach is an hour away, and it's been cooler than normal. It doesn't
> yet feel quite like summer. :-(
>
> -- David


I'm 10 mins away from Biscayne Bay (south miami) - but its always too
darn hot (high humidity) here to step outside. :)

--
HLS
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