From: nospam on
In article <7kgpupF381s54U1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams
<mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote:

> When I first read that link last year - the most interesting question
> to me apart from the inordinate lengths they're going to blacken Sigma's
> reputation, is the fact that the company in question is based in Cordova
> Tennessee. Which with all due respect to Tennesseans is surely hardly
> anyone's idea of the lens hiring capital of the US, or of the world for
> that matter.

what difference does that make? it's a mail order operation. the only
thing that matters is that they have inventory to meet demand and near
a shipping facility (i.e., not in the middle of montana).

> Other than this outfit most of the big lens hirers appear to be over the
> counter outfits in big cities linked top retailers which branched out into
> mail hire with the growth of the internet.

there's plenty of opportunity for more than one lens rental service.

> I'm surprised that nobody has ever stopped to question any of this.

there's nothing to question, that's why.

> None of the other - mostly OTC big city - hirers websites who I checked both
> in the US and UK appear to have any problem with Sigma lenses at all. And from
> memory one big seller in the UK offers all lenses including Sigma on 2 weeks
> approval prior to purchase.

maybe they would just assume take your money rather than being honest.
From: John Navas on
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:51:11 -0400, me <me(a)mine.net> wrote in
<ie86e5dso2kr7v05c2ajdd9i9r8bhnan6b(a)4ax.com>:

>On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:58:04 -0700, John Navas
><spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>Amen. You tend to get what you pay for.
>
>Not a 100% rule to follow. I'm happy with my Tokina AT-X 124 DX Pro
>12-24mm f4 lens, which is substantially cheaper than the Nikon
>equivalent. Yes, it's not and AF-S lens, but I couldn't justify the
>delta cost for that.

If it's good enough for you, that's all that matters, but I've
personally yet to see a case where a good OEM prime didn't significantly
outperform cheaper non-OEM lenses.

--
Best regards,
John

Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer,
it makes you a dSLR owner.
"The single most important component of a camera
is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: nospam on
In article <vbm6e5pki52sitr9mhpv7a8ffe4u1rjioo(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >>Amen. You tend to get what you pay for.
> >
> >Not a 100% rule to follow. I'm happy with my Tokina AT-X 124 DX Pro
> >12-24mm f4 lens, which is substantially cheaper than the Nikon
> >equivalent. Yes, it's not and AF-S lens, but I couldn't justify the
> >delta cost for that.
>
> If it's good enough for you, that's all that matters, but I've
> personally yet to see a case where a good OEM prime didn't significantly
> outperform cheaper non-OEM lenses.

perhaps you need to get out more, and he's not talking about single
focal length lenses anyway.
From: michael adams on

"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:241020091221288409%nospam(a)nospam.invalid...
> In article <7kgpupF381s54U1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams
> <mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote:
>
> > When I first read that link last year - the most interesting question
> > to me apart from the inordinate lengths they're going to blacken Sigma's
> > reputation, is the fact that the company in question is based in Cordova
> > Tennessee. Which with all due respect to Tennesseans is surely hardly
> > anyone's idea of the lens hiring capital of the US, or of the world for
> > that matter.
>
> what difference does that make? it's a mail order operation. the only
> thing that matters is that they have inventory to meet demand and near
> a shipping facility (i.e., not in the middle of montana).
>
> > Other than this outfit most of the big lens hirers appear to be over the
> > counter outfits in big cities linked top retailers which branched out into
> > mail hire with the growth of the internet.
>
> there's plenty of opportunity for more than one lens rental service.
>
> > I'm surprised that nobody has ever stopped to question any of this.
>
> there's nothing to question, that's why.
>
> > None of the other - mostly OTC big city - hirers websites who I checked both
> > in the US and UK appear to have any problem with Sigma lenses at all. And from
> > memory one big seller in the UK offers all lenses including Sigma on 2 weeks
> > approval prior to purchase.
>
> maybe they would just assume take your money rather than being honest.


Sure thing. All the over the counter operations who have to deal face to face with
their customers on a daily basis are likely to rip them off. While an outfit in an
industrial estate right next to the airport in Hicksville Tennessee, maybe a 1000
miles away, most definitely won't.


michael adams

....








From: nospam on
In article <7kh5gdF39pn9jU1(a)mid.individual.net>, michael adams
<mjadams25(a)onetel.net.uk> wrote:

> Sure thing. All the over the counter operations who have to deal face to face
> with
> their customers on a daily basis are likely to rip them off. While an outfit
> in an
> industrial estate right next to the airport in Hicksville Tennessee, maybe a 1000
> miles away, most definitely won't.

what makes you think these over the counter operations don't tell the
customer that they should rent a nikon/canon lens instead? or that the
sigma is 'out of stock' when it really means they're all broken? maybe
the store stocks 1 sigma lens for every 10 nikon/canon lenses, just to
appease the sigma fanbois who require sigma for some reason.
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