Simultaneity of Relativity
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From: mpc755 on 8 Oct 2009 12:49 If the aether is stationary relative to the embankment and stationary relative to the train, this is what will occur in Einstein's train thought experiment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyWTaXMElUk
From: YBM on 8 Oct 2009 15:32 mpc755 a �crit : > If the aether is stationary relative to the embankment and stationary > relative to the train, this is what will occur in Einstein's train > thought experiment: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyWTaXMElUk Your new absurdities don't have much success, so you try again the old ones ?
From: PD on 8 Oct 2009 15:39 On Oct 8, 11:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If the aether is stationary relative to the embankment and stationary > relative to the train, this is what will occur in Einstein's train > thought experiment: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyWTaXMElUk Cute. Now, keep in mind that the gedanken is an explanatory tool to help understand what relativity says. It is in no way an experiment. Nor has there ever been an experiment done involving a train to test relativity's claims. However, there HAVE been experiments done that are similar in concept to the train set-up, at least in terms of the underlying physics. And what's interesting is that the experimental results are consistent with relativity and not with the scheme that you've drawn. Already.
From: paparios on 8 Oct 2009 16:31 On 8 oct, 12:49, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If the aether is stationary relative to the embankment and stationary > relative to the train, this is what will occur in Einstein's train > thought experiment: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyWTaXMElUk This is a very good piece of work of yours, that provides a very good proof of Einstein's relativity of simultaneity. You describe what happens in both the train and the embankment frames. a) Considering the events as observed by M' on the train, the light fronts coming from points A' and B' arrive to the location of M' simultaneously, while clearly it is also seen that, as observed by M, the light front coming from point A' gets to the location of M well BEFORE arriving to the location of M', while the light front coming from point B' gets to the location of M well AFTER passing through the location of M'. Very well done!!! b) Now, you also nicely show the situation as seen from the point of view of M. Considering the events as observed by M on the embankment, the light fronts coming from points A and B arrive to the location of M simultaneously, while clearly it is also seen that, as observed by M', the light front coming from point A gets to the location of M' well AFTER arriving to the location of M, while the light front coming from point B gets to the location of M' well BEFORE passing through the location of M. Once again, you have proved beyond any doubt the relativity of simultaneity according to Einstein gedanken. Congratultions. Miguel Rios
From: mpc755 on 8 Oct 2009 16:32
On Oct 8, 3:39 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 8, 11:49 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > If the aether is stationary relative to the embankment and stationary > > relative to the train, this is what will occur in Einstein's train > > thought experiment: > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyWTaXMElUk > > Cute. > > Now, keep in mind that the gedanken is an explanatory tool to help > understand what relativity says. It is in no way an experiment. Nor > has there ever been an experiment done involving a train to test > relativity's claims. > > However, there HAVE been experiments done that are similar in concept > to the train set-up, at least in terms of the underlying physics. > > And what's interesting is that the experimental results are consistent > with relativity and not with the scheme that you've drawn. Already. Yes, because the tests are performed within a single aether. |