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From: NJITGS on 16 Jul 2010 02:28 the del command is what did not work, everything else you instructed I got. As for you other suggestion of sharing the folder that I want to delete, that was my last ditch effort before posting to this group. "Alister" <alister.gcs(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:OCYBF4KJLHA.3400(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > NJITGS wrote: >> This didn't work either. It kept saying that it could not find the >> specified path. >> >> >> "Alister" <alisterg(a)pickwth.com> wrote in message >> news:i1o1j4$4tg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > Which bit didn't work? > > The cd command or the del command? > > You must type them exactly as I have with correct spaces, or the system > will not recognise the commands. > > OK, as you are obviously struggling with the command line, why not try my > second suggestion of sharing a folder lower down the path. > > Do you know how to do that? > > Alister
From: Alister on 16 Jul 2010 06:57 NJITGS wrote: > the del command is what did not work, everything else you instructed I got. > > As for you other suggestion of sharing the folder that I want to delete, > that was my last ditch effort before posting to this group. > Ah, ok, fair enough. In that case I'm afraid I don't have any further solution for you. Alister.
From: dadiOH on 16 Jul 2010 08:20 NJITGS wrote: <top post moved to bottom> > "dadiOH" <dadiOH(a)invalid.com> wrote in message > news:OdN%n.26540$c85.908(a)newsfe15.ams2... >> NJITGS wrote: >>> Recently I attempted to backup my Outlook Express using the Windows >>> NT Backup Utility and when I tried to restore the files to the new >>> directory they did not properly restore to the correct location and >>> when I try to delete the misplaced folder it will not allow me to, >>> it gives the following message: >>> >>> X Cannot delete Outlook Express: The file name you specified is >>> not valid or to long. >>> Specify a different file name. >>> >>> It is located in the following location: >>> >>> C:\Documents and Settings\Compaq_Administrator\Local >>> Settings\Application >>> Data\Identities\{D190EE07-1887-4595-8F62-6253114299D2}\jkl >>> The last three letters at the end of the file path is what I renamed >>> the file to in attempt that it would then delete but no such luck. >>> >>> Now I have 6 years worth of emails with attachments (over 1Gb of >>> data) erroneously located on my computer and fearing that it will >>> cause problems later on. >>> >>> Operating System: Windows XP Media Center Edition Version 2002 >>> Service Pack 2 >>> >>> Could anyone please help? >> >> What are the backup files; i.e., are they dbx files each of which >> has a name that would show as a "folder" if they were being >> displayed by OE? Or are they in some (propably) compressed >> proprietary format used by your backup program? >> >> If the latter, do you still have the source (the backup itself) or >> was it expanded to the now flaky directory? >> >> What happens when you run OE...do you see the assorted folders? What's in >> them? Are they OK? > Each of which are subfolders with .dbx files that were misplaced when > restoring. What makes you think they were misplaced? OK, try this... 1. Open OE 2. Click on a folder, click on "Properties", make note of where the folders are stored. 3. Browse to that location and copy all dbx fies in the folder to a new, temporary location. 4. Go back to OE, Tools, Options, Maintenance tab, Store folder button. 5. Tell OE the new store location is your flaky folder... C:\Documents and Settings\Compaq_Administrator\LocalSettings\ApplicationData\Identities\{D190EE07-1887-4595-8F62-6253114299D2} NOTE: There are normally subfolders there: 1st is Microsoft which has an Outlook Express sub-folder. If those exist, assure that you are including them in the path 6. Close OE and reopen. Do #2 above again...is the store folder now your flaky folder? Is everything OK? 7. If so, you can just delete the folder from #3 and leave the flaky folder alone as long as you don't mind your mail being stored there. You could also keep your temporary folder, renaming it to somethng appropriate such as "OE Mail Backup". Periodically, delete everything in it and copy *ALL* dbx files from OE's normal store folder to it to serve as a backup. If you need/want to restore, reverse the procedure; i.e., delete *ALL* dbx file in OE's normal store folder and copy *ALL* files in your backup folder to it. _______________ I would like to suggest a (IMO) less troublesome way of backing up your mail. But first a bit of info about email "files" and "folders"... Email messages do not exist in OE as separate, discreet files; instead, all messages within an OE (pseudo) folder are chained together into one big file. Doing that saves a lot of space because everytime a file is created or extended a certain amount of disk space is allocated to it. That allocation unit can range from around 4000 byes to around 32000 bytes depending on the size of your hard drive. That means that a lot of small files consume a HUGE amount of disk space; that unneeded space is greatly reduced by chaining together many small files into one large one. The one big file is displayed to you as individual email messages because OE keeps an index of the big file (pseudo-folders) layout in Folders.dbx. If that file gets messed up, all your email messages in all the other dbx files (pseudo-folders) are toast. My suggestion is this... 1. Create a folder somewhere named "OE Email Backup" 2. Create subfolders under it, each named correspondingly to OE's pseudo-folders. 3. In OE, click a folder you want to back up, selet all, drag into the appropriate backup folders. You now have individual, discrete emails in your backup folder(s). Delete the ones in OE (you do have OE set to dump deleted items on exit, right?). 4. Those individual messages are taking up scads of room so zip up the whole group of backup folders. If/when you want to read one, open the zip and click on a message...OE will open it. Same thing if you burn the zip to a CD/DVD. Of course, you don't need individual folders in your backup zip, all could be in one folder. _______________ No more worry with the need to compact, no more export/import, no more confusion about dbx files. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
From: NJITGS on 16 Jul 2010 10:18 Thank you very much for all your feedback. However, that seems like a bit much when all I really would like to do is get rid of the misplaced folder. After several attempts I finally was able to get NT Backup Utility to restore the OE files in the store folder of the new location so I don't need to redirect where OE stores or retrieves messages. Perhaps there is a way to remove this folder at the level of the registry...? "dadiOH" <dadiOH(a)invalid.com> wrote in message news:I8Y%n.119548$U%7.6624(a)hurricane... > NJITGS wrote: > > <top post moved to bottom> > >> "dadiOH" <dadiOH(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:OdN%n.26540$c85.908(a)newsfe15.ams2... >>> NJITGS wrote: >>>> Recently I attempted to backup my Outlook Express using the Windows >>>> NT Backup Utility and when I tried to restore the files to the new >>>> directory they did not properly restore to the correct location and >>>> when I try to delete the misplaced folder it will not allow me to, >>>> it gives the following message: >>>> >>>> X Cannot delete Outlook Express: The file name you specified is >>>> not valid or to long. >>>> Specify a different file name. >>>> >>>> It is located in the following location: >>>> >>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Compaq_Administrator\Local >>>> Settings\Application >>>> Data\Identities\{D190EE07-1887-4595-8F62-6253114299D2}\jkl >>>> The last three letters at the end of the file path is what I renamed >>>> the file to in attempt that it would then delete but no such luck. >>>> >>>> Now I have 6 years worth of emails with attachments (over 1Gb of >>>> data) erroneously located on my computer and fearing that it will >>>> cause problems later on. >>>> >>>> Operating System: Windows XP Media Center Edition Version 2002 >>>> Service Pack 2 >>>> >>>> Could anyone please help? >>> >>> What are the backup files; i.e., are they dbx files each of which >>> has a name that would show as a "folder" if they were being >>> displayed by OE? Or are they in some (propably) compressed >>> proprietary format used by your backup program? >>> >>> If the latter, do you still have the source (the backup itself) or >>> was it expanded to the now flaky directory? >>> >>> What happens when you run OE...do you see the assorted folders? What's >>> in them? Are they OK? > >> Each of which are subfolders with .dbx files that were misplaced when >> restoring. > > What makes you think they were misplaced? > > OK, try this... > 1. Open OE > 2. Click on a folder, click on "Properties", make note of where the > folders are stored. > 3. Browse to that location and copy all dbx fies in the folder to a > new, temporary location. > 4. Go back to OE, Tools, Options, Maintenance tab, Store folder button. > 5. Tell OE the new store location is your flaky folder... > C:\Documents and > Settings\Compaq_Administrator\LocalSettings\ApplicationData\Identities\{D190EE07-1887-4595-8F62-6253114299D2} > > NOTE: There are normally subfolders there: 1st is Microsoft which has an > Outlook Express sub-folder. If those exist, assure that you are including > them in the path > > 6. Close OE and reopen. Do #2 above again...is the store folder now > your flaky folder? Is everything OK? > > 7. If so, you can just delete the folder from #3 and leave the flaky > folder alone as long as you don't mind your mail being stored there. > > You could also keep your temporary folder, renaming it to somethng > appropriate such as "OE Mail Backup". Periodically, delete everything in > it and copy *ALL* dbx files from OE's normal store folder to it to serve > as a backup. If you need/want to restore, reverse the procedure; i.e., > delete *ALL* dbx file in OE's normal store folder and copy *ALL* files in > your backup folder to it. > _______________ > > I would like to suggest a (IMO) less troublesome way of backing up your > mail. But first a bit of info about email "files" and "folders"... > > Email messages do not exist in OE as separate, discreet files; instead, > all messages within an OE (pseudo) folder are chained together into one > big file. Doing that saves a lot of space because everytime a file is > created or extended a certain amount of disk space is allocated to it. > That allocation unit can range from around 4000 byes to around 32000 bytes > depending on the size of your hard drive. That means that a lot of small > files consume a HUGE amount of disk space; that unneeded space is greatly > reduced by chaining together many small files into one large one. > > The one big file is displayed to you as individual email messages because > OE keeps an index of the big file (pseudo-folders) layout in Folders.dbx. > If that file gets messed up, all your email messages in all the other dbx > files (pseudo-folders) are toast. > > My suggestion is this... > 1. Create a folder somewhere named "OE Email Backup" > > 2. Create subfolders under it, each named correspondingly to OE's > pseudo-folders. > > 3. In OE, click a folder you want to back up, selet all, drag into the > appropriate backup folders. You now have individual, discrete emails in > your backup folder(s). Delete the ones in OE (you do have OE set to dump > deleted items on exit, right?). > > 4. Those individual messages are taking up scads of room so zip up the > whole group of backup folders. If/when you want to read one, open the zip > and click on a message...OE will open it. Same thing if you burn the zip > to a CD/DVD. > > Of course, you don't need individual folders in your backup zip, all could > be in one folder. > _______________ > > No more worry with the need to compact, no more export/import, no more > confusion about dbx files. > > > > -- > > dadiOH > ____________________________ > > dadiOH's dandies v3.06... > ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from > LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. > Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico > > >
From: dadiOH on 16 Jul 2010 10:54 NJITGS wrote: > Thank you very much for all your feedback. However, that seems like > a bit much when all I really would like to do is get rid of the > misplaced folder. After several attempts I finally was able to get NT > Backup Utility to restore the OE files in the store folder of the new > location so I don't need to redirect where OE stores or retrieves > messages. > Perhaps there is a way to remove this folder at the level of the > registry...? Assuming it is NOT OE's store folder - or in use in some other way - and you have admin rights I can think of no reason you can't just delete it. Although mine is not named exactly the same, it is/was in the same path and deletes in the regular manner. I just did. -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
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