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From: Frank Martin on 14 Apr 2010 20:02 "John Inzer" <oobie(a)doobie.zyx> wrote in message news:uscnZRC3KHA.5084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Frank Martin wrote: >> I have WindowsXP SP3 >> >> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want to >> add it to the programs to be left alone in CCleaner. >> >> Would I have to add some registry entry too? >> >> Desperate, Frank > ==================================== > %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe > > C:\System Volume Information\_restore > > I don't think System Restore is affected by CCleaner > (at least I've never had an issue with it). > > However...if you open CCleaner and go to...Tools / > System Restore button...you can manually remove > one or more restore points. > My ideal was to leave about 3 Restore points in.
From: peter on 14 Apr 2010 20:34 I have used CCleaner for years and it never ever has done any damage to my registry... BUT I read every line it wishes to correct just to be sure and if in doubt I leave the line alone. CCleaner can be run without running the reg cleaner part and as such it still is a valuable tool . peter -- If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate or disruptive,please ignore it. If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-) "Frank Martin" <fm(a)general.com.au> wrote in message news:OdpiXuC3KHA.5880(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > "Pegasus [MVP]" <news(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:eiFd6QC3KHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> >> >> "Frank Martin" <fm(a)general.com.au> wrote in message >> news:Or8c58B3KHA.3568(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> I have WindowsXP SP3 >>> >>> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want to add it to the >>> programs to be left alone in CCleaner. >>> >>> Would I have to add some registry entry too? >>> >>> Desperate, Frank >> >> If you're desperate now, brace yourself for some real desparation when >> CCCleaner damages your Windows installation. Like most registry cleaners >> it is useless (at best) and destructive (at worst). Have you ever used a >> stopwatch to actually measure the numerous benefits it boasts about or do >> you rely on the warm feeling that you get inside when reading about the >> wonderful things it will do? Many people use the word "snake oil" when >> talking about registry cleaners. >> >> The System Restore program is called rstrui.exe and it normally dwells in >> the folder c:\windows\restore. > > > Thank you. I use the "Microsoft RegClean" for the registry. > > Is there a Microsoft product equivalent to CCleaner? I would like to know > about it. Is there one in the "SysInternals" suite? I have leased out > space in my computer to all sorts of software because Microsoft does not > seem to have anything like them. Can you suggest any better software to > do CCleaner's job? > > Wary of the Thought Police: > Frank >
From: Lem on 15 Apr 2010 00:35 Frank Martin wrote: > "John Inzer" <oobie(a)doobie.zyx> wrote in message > news:uscnZRC3KHA.5084(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Frank Martin wrote: >>> I have WindowsXP SP3 >>> >>> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want to >>> add it to the programs to be left alone in CCleaner. >>> >>> Would I have to add some registry entry too? >>> >>> Desperate, Frank >> ==================================== >> %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe >> >> C:\System Volume Information\_restore >> >> I don't think System Restore is affected by CCleaner >> (at least I've never had an issue with it). >> >> However...if you open CCleaner and go to...Tools / >> System Restore button...you can manually remove >> one or more restore points. >> > > > My ideal was to leave about 3 Restore points in. > > You can *NOT* arbitrarily remove restore points (and expect System Restore to work afterwards). You can delete all but the most recent restore point (using the built-in Disk Cleanup tool (cleanmgr.exe). Or you can reduce the amount of space allocated to System Restore from its default of 12% of your partition to about 1 GB (using the System Restore tab/Settings button from System Properties). As you reduce the allocated space, System Restore automatically removes restore points, starting with the oldest. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
From: HeyBub on 15 Apr 2010 08:28 Frank Martin wrote: >> >> If you're desperate now, brace yourself for some real >> desparation when CCCleaner damages your Windows >> installation. Like most registry cleaners it is useless >> (at best) and destructive (at worst). Have you ever used a >> stopwatch to actually measure the numerous benefits it >> boasts about or do you rely on the warm feeling that you >> get inside when reading about the wonderful things it will >> do? Many people use the word "snake oil" when talking >> about registry cleaners. >> >> The System Restore program is called rstrui.exe and it >> normally dwells in the folder c:\windows\restore. > > > Thank you. I use the "Microsoft RegClean" for the registry. There is a body of thought that Microsoft's "Reg Clean" was a placebo. That is, it did virtually nothing aside from giving the user the soothing illusion that his registry was now "clean." > > Is there a Microsoft product equivalent to CCleaner? I > would like to know about it. Is there one in the > "SysInternals" suite? I have leased out space in my > computer to all sorts of software because Microsoft does not > seem to have anything like them. Can you suggest any > better software to do CCleaner's job? > If a given bit of software was any good, there is a body of thought that Microsoft would have bought the company - or at least licensed this "good" software - and included it in the OS. Therefore, if you harken to this theory, the conclusion is: "If it ain't Microsoft, it's dirt (sometimes mud)." The time-tested advice to "leave the registry alone" is simply not acceptable to those who dust inside the covers of all their books or wax the underside of their car's fenders. There may be a pill for this malady. There may also be a 12-step program...
From: Twayne on 15 Apr 2010 17:05
In news:eiFd6QC3KHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl, Pegasus [MVP] <news(a)microsoft.com> typed: > "Frank Martin" <fm(a)general.com.au> wrote in message > news:Or8c58B3KHA.3568(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> I have WindowsXP SP3 >> >> Where does the System Restore program reside? I want to >> add it to the programs to be left alone in CCleaner. >> >> Would I have to add some registry entry too? >> >> Desperate, Frank > > If you're desperate now, brace yourself for some real > desparation when CCCleaner damages your Windows > installation. Like most registry cleaners it is useless (at > best) and destructive (at worst). Have you ever used a > stopwatch to actually measure the numerous benefits it > boasts about or do you rely on the warm feeling that you > get inside when reading about the wonderful things it will > do? Many people use the word "snake oil" when talking about > registry cleaners. > The System Restore program is called rstrui.exe and it > normally dwells in the folder c:\windows\restore. Nah, what he needs to brace himself for is the spew from a closed minded ignoramus who is so far behind the times in technology and capabilities that he needs to consistantly spew his garbage, known to be garbage by millions of users, to this group's participants. Go ahead and ask him to cite any verfiable evidence of his allegations against cleaners; he can't do it. What he does do is libel and disparage users of anything that automates or assists in the management of registry problems, claiming he knows what he talks about but has never, ever cited anything but self-serving posts written by another of his small gang of idiots out to lie to anyone that will listen. Good registry cleaners are excellent tools. Yet this myopic slob seems to never mention anything but the fact that they "speed up" or not, a computer. He won't admit that, and doesn't realize apparently, that a registry cleaner can easily result in a 20S shortening of boot times, depending on the problems present IN the registry. 20S is the most noticeable and a common increment due to defaults. Most of the time it's true that one won't notice the speed ups that result from a registry cleaner, but that as a sole issue totally ignores the many other tasks such programs do and problems it can alleviate. The most "evidence" he's ever referred to is a "lot" (and there are actually very, very few of them) of other posts from unknown posters claiming their machines were trashed after using a registry cleaner. He seems to think the Registry is one very complex, impossible for the average bear to learn, part of the OS when in reality just the opposite is true if one wishes to look into it at all. Almost NO ONE, but this small group of idiots use the term "SNAKE OIL" when they talk about registry cleaners. Often the first time one hears that word is from them; not from open minds who have taken the time to gather knowledge and experience on the subject. As for being destructive, I have NEVER, in all the machines I have worked on and used registry cleaners on, had one cause any damage to a system. But I HAVE seen MS tools like chkdsk completely remove any ability to boot the subject machine. In some, not many, cases chkdsk can misinterpret some corrupted areas and in attempting to fix them, stop the machine from boothing. I've also seen a LOT of programs that screw up on install, including Microsoft applications, which a Registry Cleaner can quite quickly and easily repair for you if you can't get System Restore et al to help out with. His main set of abilities is rationalizing anything he wants to be true and to make everyone think the way he does, or else be sbjected to his condescending, ignorant further misinformation and stated opinions about how sorry you're going to be for not thinking the same way he does. Thanks again for this opportunity to expose this wrong-headed, unethical and ignorant spew of misinformation he just loves to spead any time a registry cleaner is mentioned. HTH, Twayne` |