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From: Noons on 4 Mar 2010 21:52 On Mar 5, 12:51 am, John Hurley <johnbhur...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Chill dude. Your posting here made it a little unclear to me at least > what you were aware of here. You are right: sorry. Chilled. > You don't really have any choice about installing it ... it comes with > the software. New patchsets and maintenance that goes into the system > keeps updating it. Wanna bet? $cd $ORACLE_HOME/ccr ksh: /u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/ccr: not found. $ :) qed. > About the only choices that we have here is how we configure it ... if > we configure it ... and if we use it ... how we use it. One of the reasons why I spent a few months looking into it. Initially with the best of intentions, but as I learned more and more of what it does, with the single intention of disabling it once and for all. > If your employer pays you to support Oracle databases then anything > relevant to Oracle support probably comes under your discretion in > some regard. What you choose to do is obviously up to you. Exactly. I chose to let Oracle support do their work, not me. There is a marked difference between supporting a database that happens to use Oracle software and supporting Oracle software: the two are far from interchangeable. > The unfortunate situation is that Oracle customers need a support > contract to be able to download patches/patchset updates/patchsets > along with new releases etc. Oracle used to sell separate upgrade licensing and support licensing, back in the pre-6 days. Guess why they bundled both into a single licence? ;) I wonder if anyone ever tested the legality under common law of them doing so...
From: Noons on 4 Mar 2010 21:55 On Mar 5, 5:19 am, joel garry <joel-ga...(a)home.com> wrote: > The metric(s) are re-enabled by removing the corresponding line from > the > collector.properties file. > > ------------------------------------ End inclusion > > Did not giving the CSI prevent /oracle/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/ > ccr/config/default/targets.xml from having your hostname? Have you > checked where ccr.endpoint points to in ccr.properties? (If I were a > bad guy, perhaps that's where I'd go to make your system give me your > information. If I knew how it worked). How about those funnily named > xml files in ccr/state? Interesting enough if you install a new version, the behaviour reverts back to sending everything. How nice is that?...
From: John Hurley on 5 Mar 2010 08:28 On Mar 4, 9:52 pm, Noons <wizofo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: snip > Wanna bet? > $cd $ORACLE_HOME/ccr > ksh: /u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/ccr: not found. > $ > > :) qed. I will take your bet ... $ cd $ORACLE_HOME/ccr $ pwd /u01/app/oracle/product/11.1.0/db_1/ccr
From: John Hurley on 5 Mar 2010 09:03 On Mar 5, 8:28 am, John Hurley <johnbhur...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: snip > > Wanna bet? > > $cd $ORACLE_HOME/ccr > > ksh: /u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/ccr: not found. > > $ > > > :) qed. > > I will take your bet ... > > $ cd $ORACLE_HOME/ccr > $ pwd > /u01/app/oracle/product/11.1.0/db_1/ccr Here is my last 10.2.0.4 system ... $ pwd /u01/app/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/ccr $ ll -ltr total 56 -rw-r--r-- 1 oracle oinstall 23331 Dec 17 2007 README.TXT .... ( lines deleted ) $ more README.TXT Oracle Configuration Manager Release Notes Version: 10.2.7.1.0 Date: December 17, 2007 These Release Notes list the important features of Oracle Configuration Manager and the known issues in this release. The steps to install and configure Oracle Configuration Manager are documented in the Oracle Configuration Manager Installation and Administration Guide. About Oracle Configuration Manager ----------------------------------
From: joel garry on 5 Mar 2010 12:22
On Mar 4, 6:52 pm, Noons <wizofo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 5, 12:51 am, John Hurley <johnbhur...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Oracle used to sell separate upgrade licensing and support licensing, > back in the pre-6 days. > Guess why they bundled both into a single licence? ;) > I wonder if anyone ever tested the legality under common law of them > doing so... Which law would that be? http://www.ipinfoblog.com/archives/licensing-law-issues-flawed-ali-software-contract-principles.html jg -- @home.com is bogus. http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/2010/03/mariposa-botnet-authors-may-avoid-jail-time/ |