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From: Bert Hyman on 17 Mar 2010 09:09
In news:soi0q5tl2rutrmgmo7ctan31t3ci8cr5cr(a)4ax.com Walt Bilofsky
<bilofsky(a)toolworks.com> wrote:

> So I got off the chat, fired up Turbo Tax 2009 Deluxe, and downloaded
> my 1099-INT, 1099-DIV and stock sales from one of my financial
> partners, just like Dinesh Raj said Deluxe couldn't do.

I don't use "Premier" either, but I got the impression that the feature
being touted was an ability to determine your basis for stock and mutual
fund sales.

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert(a)iphouse.com
From: Oilcan on 17 Mar 2010 09:54
I don't think he is dishonest. He didn't give you "Saves you time by
downloading your investment info directly from participating financial
institutions" as a reason to upgrade. Did the man understand your
question "what does Premier do, with loss carryover and downloading from
financial institutions, that Deluxe does not already do?"? He answer
was focusing on the non-stock transactions that can also go on the form
with his response "for your kind information if you have any rental
property, capital investments" and I take his "no" to be in response to
capital investments. The definition of a capital investment is money
invested in a business venture with an expectation of income, and
recovered through earnings generated by the business over several years.
It is generally understood to be used for capital expenditure than for
day-to-day operations (working capital) or other expenses. He stated
this was not downloadable and I have to believe him.

Even with that said his response it's still just a pitch to upgrade.

-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Bilofsky [mailto:bilofsky(a)toolworks.com]
Posted At: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:00 AM
Posted To: alt.comp.software.financial.quicken
Conversation: Turbo Tax Premier vs. Deluxe
Subject: Re: Turbo Tax Premier vs. Deluxe

But when Intuit gives "Saves you time by downloading your investment
info directly from participating financial institutions" as a reason
for upgrading from Deluxe to Premier - and Deluxe already does this -
doesn't that cross the line from salesmanship into dishonesty?

"Oilcan" <oilcan(a)nospam.net> wrote:

>So - do I get more in these two functions if I pay an additional $30
>for Premier?
>
>All versions of the product allow you to complete a Tax return. The
>main difference is the amount of help Premier gives you verses Deluxe
in
>the form of Help Guides and wizards. If you don't have a complicated
>Tax Return you probably do not need Premier.
>
>Or is Intuit trying to snooker customers into upgrading to get
>functionality they already have?
>
>They are being a sales person. You decide if you need the additional
>Help Guides and wizards or you can go directly to the form and manually
>enter everything like people use to do before computers on by using
>Paper Forms. Ah, the good old days!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Walt Bilofsky [mailto:bilofsky(a)toolworks.com]
>Posted At: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:06 PM
>Posted To: alt.comp.software.financial.quicken
>Conversation: Turbo Tax Premier vs. Deluxe
>Subject: Turbo Tax Premier vs. Deluxe
>
>Just started up Turbo Tax Deluxe 2009. Its first bit of "tax advice"
>was to upgrade to Premier for more help with my investments. Here's
>an edited version of More Details:
>
>"TurboTax Premier gives you extra guidance on all your investments,
>including stocks, bonds, mutual funds, employee stock options, rental
>properties, and more.
>- Helps calculate your gains and losses and keeps track of those that
>carryover year after year
>- Saves you time by downloading your investment info directly from
>participating financial institutions ..."
>
>But don't I already have this functionality in Deluxe?
>
>In Deluxe, my 2009 Capital Loss Carryover worksheet comes up fine, and
>it has File | Import | From Financial Partner.
>
>So - do I get more in these two functions if I pay an additional $30
>for Premier?
>
>Or is Intuit trying to snooker customers into upgrading to get
>functionality they already have?

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