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From: Ben Myers on 15 Sep 2008 00:23
Here is Microsoft's own description of bootcfg, which has been around since NT
4.0:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291980

"The bootcfg /redirect command enables redirection in the boot loader with the
configuration specified as port and baudrate. This command is used to turn on
the Headless Administration feature." Headless means no monitor attached, with
administration of Windows through a dumb terminal (e.g. DEC VT100) usually
attached to a serial port. Seems to me to be a leftover from the days when a
monitor cost $1000.

In general, the recovery console provides limited number of limited commands
which can be used to fix a problem on the hard drive with Windows. If you boot
to the recovery console, get yourself to the command line, and type HELP, you
will get a list of allowable commands. If you type HELP <command>, you will get
the syntax for that command. You can also find more information about the
recovery console at the Microsoft web site. Or just Google for it. Faster than
Microsoft's anemic search.

You were definitely given a steaming pile of fresh horse manure on whatever
newsgroup gave you that advice. We try not to do that in this newsgroup. Most
of us anyway... Ben Myers

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:58:13 -0700 (PDT), Fred the Red Shirt
<fredfighter(a)spamcop.net> wrote:

>On Sep 14, 9:10�pm, Ben Myers <ben_myers_spam_me_...(a)charter.net>
>wrote:
>> Well, then, how about hitting the F2 key to enter the setup, then change the
>> boot order in the BIOS setup?
>
>See: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sys.pc-clone.dell/msg/75ee6eb7162c0470?hl=en&dmode=source
>
>
>
>> Or power on the system, hit the F12 key to call
>> up the system boot menu, select the CD/DVD drive, and boot?
>
>I'll try that next.
>
>>
>> "The instructions I have found say to boot using six setup floppies downloaded
>> from microsoft and then use the recovery console to enable booting from the
>> cd-rom." �Whoever told you this or wherever you found, it is a large warm pile
>> of horse manure, still warm and steaming. �Booting from the CD/DVD drive is a
>> BIOS-controlled function, plain and simple. �It has absolutely NOTHING to do
>> with Windows itself.
>
>Agreed.
>
>>
>> Better yet, please cite a reference where you found this gem of computer wisdom.
>
>It was in one of these Usenet newsgroups. Problem
>is there are too many of them. When looking for it,
>I found this discusion of the recovery partition and
>thought maybe it would be good to ask about the
>recovery console.
>
>Have you ever used the recovery console? Are
>you familiar with the sytax of the available
>commands?
>
>Do you know what the recovery console command:
>
>bootcfg /redirect useBiosSettings
>
>Actually does?
From: Fixer on 15 Sep 2008 03:48
ERRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr staing the blindingly obvious but did you hit the F12
key from the dell spash screen and choose "Boot From CD"????????
"Fred the Red Shirt" <fredfighter(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:6536681c-7e29-42e7-8fd6-f7cb147a8ddc(a)d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 14, 9:10 pm, Ben Myers <ben_myers_spam_me_...(a)charter.net>
wrote:
> Well, then, how about hitting the F2 key to enter the setup, then change
> the
> boot order in the BIOS setup?

See:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sys.pc-clone.dell/msg/75ee6eb7162c0470?hl=en&dmode=source



> Or power on the system, hit the F12 key to call
> up the system boot menu, select the CD/DVD drive, and boot?

I'll try that next.

>
> "The instructions I have found say to boot using six setup floppies
> downloaded
> from microsoft and then use the recovery console to enable booting from
> the
> cd-rom." Whoever told you this or wherever you found, it is a large warm
> pile
> of horse manure, still warm and steaming. Booting from the CD/DVD drive is
> a
> BIOS-controlled function, plain and simple. It has absolutely NOTHING to
> do
> with Windows itself.

Agreed.

>
> Better yet, please cite a reference where you found this gem of computer
> wisdom.

It was in one of these Usenet newsgroups. Problem
is there are too many of them. When looking for it,
I found this discusion of the recovery partition and
thought maybe it would be good to ask about the
recovery console.

Have you ever used the recovery console? Are
you familiar with the sytax of the available
commands?

Do you know what the recovery console command:

bootcfg /redirect useBiosSettings

Actually does?

--

FF


From: Fred the Red Shirt on 15 Sep 2008 10:39
On Sep 15, 3:48 am, "Fixer" <steve.haberfi...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> ERRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrr staing the blindingly obvious but did you hit the F12
> key from the dell spash screen and choose "Boot From CD"????????

I don't know what a spash (splash?) screen is.

If I hit F12 during startup I get a message saying to enter CTR-ALT-
B.

Doing that I get a "Configuration menu" where I can set the "Boot
Method".

The choices for "Boot Method" are:

RPL
PXE
TCP/IP
NetWare

Which of those is the "Boot From CD"?

The other parameters are currently set to:

Config Message: Enabled
Message Timeout: 6 seconds
Boot Failure Prompt: Wait for Timeout
Boot Failure: Next Boot Device


--

FF


From: Fred the Red Shirt on 15 Sep 2008 11:21
On Sep 15, 12:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_myers_spam_me_...(a)charter.net>
wrote:
> Here is Microsoft's own description of bootcfg, which has been around since NT
> 4.0:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291980
>
> "The bootcfg /redirect command enables redirection in the boot loader with the
> configuration specified as port and baudrate. This command is used to turn on
> the Headless Administration feature."   Headless means no monitor attached, with
> administration of Windows through a dumb terminal (e.g. DEC VT100) usually
> attached to a serial port.  Seems to me to be a leftover from the days when a
> monitor cost $1000.

Yes I have read that already. If you review it again you will find
that
there is no explanation on those pages for what the command:

bootcfg /redirect useBiosSettings

actually does. Do you know what it does?

>
> In general, the recovery console provides limited number of limited commands
> which can be used to fix a problem on the hard drive with Windows.  If you boot
> to the recovery console, get yourself to the command line, and type HELP, you
> will get a list of allowable commands.  If you type HELP <command>, you will get
> the syntax for that command.  You can also find more information about the
> recovery console at the Microsoft web site.  Or just Google for it.  Faster than
> Microsoft's anemic search.

Yes I have found several sources for information about the recovery
console. None of them explain what:

bootcfg /redirect useBiosSettings

actually does.

At least, it looks to be reversible so I'll try it and see.



>
> You were definitely given a steaming pile of fresh horse manure on whatever
> newsgroup gave you that advice.

Keeping that thought in mind, how do you boot to the recovery console
_without_ using XP setup boot floppies? They work for me and there
is a plethora of articles on assorted Usenet newsgroups explaining how
to do it which leaves me at a loss to understand why you have never
known it to work, unless of course you have not actually tried it.

Here is some more information about Xp setup boot floppies:

http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&setlang=en-us&q=xp+setup+floppies&mkt=en-us

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=E8FE6868-6E4F-471C-B455-BD5AFEE126D8

> We try not to do that in this newsgroup.  Most
> of us anyway...BenMyers
> ...

--

FF
From: JayB on 15 Sep 2008 11:37
that bootcfg command will not help you.
did you try hitting the f12 key to get the start menu???
you must boot off the windows cd to install it.



Fred the Red Shirt wrote:
> On Sep 15, 12:23 am, Ben Myers <ben_myers_spam_me_...(a)charter.net>
> wrote:
>> Here is Microsoft's own description of bootcfg, which has been around since NT
>> 4.0:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/291980
>>
>> "The bootcfg /redirect command enables redirection in the boot loader with the
>> configuration specified as port and baudrate. This command is used to turn on
>> the Headless Administration feature." Headless means no monitor attached, with
>> administration of Windows through a dumb terminal (e.g. DEC VT100) usually
>> attached to a serial port. Seems to me to be a leftover from the days when a
>> monitor cost $1000.
>
> Yes I have read that already. If you review it again you will find
> that
> there is no explanation on those pages for what the command:
>
> bootcfg /redirect useBiosSettings
>
> actually does. Do you know what it does?
>
>> In general, the recovery console provides limited number of limited commands
>> which can be used to fix a problem on the hard drive with Windows. If you boot
>> to the recovery console, get yourself to the command line, and type HELP, you
>> will get a list of allowable commands. If you type HELP <command>, you will get
>> the syntax for that command. You can also find more information about the
>> recovery console at the Microsoft web site. Or just Google for it. Faster than
>> Microsoft's anemic search.
>
> Yes I have found several sources for information about the recovery
> console. None of them explain what:
>
> bootcfg /redirect useBiosSettings
>
> actually does.
>
> At least, it looks to be reversible so I'll try it and see.
>
>
>
>> You were definitely given a steaming pile of fresh horse manure on whatever
>> newsgroup gave you that advice.
>
> Keeping that thought in mind, how do you boot to the recovery console
> _without_ using XP setup boot floppies? They work for me and there
> is a plethora of articles on assorted Usenet newsgroups explaining how
> to do it which leaves me at a loss to understand why you have never
> known it to work, unless of course you have not actually tried it.
>
> Here is some more information about Xp setup boot floppies:
>
> http://search.microsoft.com/results.aspx?form=MSHOME&setlang=en-us&q=xp+setup+floppies&mkt=en-us
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=E8FE6868-6E4F-471C-B455-BD5AFEE126D8
>
>> We try not to do that in this newsgroup. Most
>> of us anyway...BenMyers
>> ...
>
> --
>
> FF
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