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From: Alexander Nickolov on 19 Sep 2007 16:51 There's at least one exception at least at the moment: Mac OS X is FreeBSD - a Unix flavor. That may cause you to change your thinking - it already changed ours... -- ===================================== Alexander Nickolov Microsoft MVP [VC], MCSD email: agnickolov(a)mvps.org MVP VC FAQ: http://vcfaq.mvps.org ===================================== "Giovanni Dicanio" <giovanni.dicanio(a)invalid.it> wrote in message news:OxMWkTs%23HHA.3548(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > > "Kenneth Porter" <shiva.blacklist(a)sewingwitch.com> ha scritto nel > messaggio news:Xns99B02BE0F3C05shivawellcom(a)207.46.248.16... > >> Recalling that the OP is from the *nix world, if one is considering >> redesigning the GUI, one might also consider a portable GUI framework, >> such >> as QT or wxWidgets. I've been using wx and I really like the Java-like >> sizer-based control layout. > > Hi, > > I don't have programming experience with QT, so I can't express an opinion > about it. > However, I don't like wxWidgets. For example, the documentation is really > *poor*. > > I needed to have a custom grid with radio buttons inside a cell. > Then I went to wxGrid documentation, and I just read a dummy sample here: > > http://www.wxwidgets.org/manuals/2.6/wx_gridoverview.html#gridoverview > > the really interesting examples are just ... "Yet to be written..."?!?? > > What kind of professional style is that?? > > I don't trust an undocumented library, with no serious IDE support. > > I've tried wxDev-C++ and it is a fragile *toy*: the opposite of the > concept of robust quality tool. The GUI designer is broken. The IDE is > something of the pre-VC6 era: maybe Notepad would be even better. > > If one has had an experience of Visual C++ and MFC, and the support that > Visual C++ offers to MFC development (exspecially in VC6) via ClassWizard, > or other wizards, or other IDE tools, and the super-rich documentation > about MFC, and the avability of real *jewels* like CodeProject > (www.codeproject.com), then things like wxWidgets just vanish, IMHO. > > BTW: Have you any idea about how to put three radio buttons into a cell of > a wxGrid? :) > > Moreover, I don't like the idea of portable GUI framework a lot. > > Frankly speaking, considering that Windows platform has a very big > penetration in the market (my understanding is that Windows penetration is > huge not only in desktop systems, but also on the servers!), I don't care > about Unix (BTW: which Unix? Linux? Sun? HP? and which Linux? KDE? GNOME? > SuSE? Debian? Ubuntu...? IMHO, it's a chaos...) or portability. > > I prefer to focus on a high-quality environment like .NET framework, that > is a great Microsoft's technology IMHO, with great tools, and has an high > quality support (from MSDN documentation, web forums, NNTP-based > newsgroups, etc.). > And the Visual C#/VB 2005 Express Editions are super if you compare them > to wxDev-C++. > > Just my 2 cents > > Giovanni > >
From: Ben Voigt [C++ MVP] on 20 Sep 2007 16:39 "Scott McPhillips [MVP]" <org-dot-mvps-at-scottmcp> wrote in message news:eQ$fLxm%23HHA.5404(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "Tom Serface" <tom.nospam(a)camaswood.com> wrote in message > news:uj1ffpm%23HHA.600(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Man it's hard to see how anyone can get those version number mixed up :o) >> >> Tom > > I started with VC1.0. > If I recall, there was never a VC3, and we went from VC4 to VC4.2 > But there was VC1.5 (which I think was the last 16-bit version).
From: Tom Serface on 21 Sep 2007 10:15 VC 1.52, may it RIP :o) Tom "Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]" <rbv(a)nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:us1pRZ8%23HHA.4592(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > > "Scott McPhillips [MVP]" <org-dot-mvps-at-scottmcp> wrote in message > news:eQ$fLxm%23HHA.5404(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> "Tom Serface" <tom.nospam(a)camaswood.com> wrote in message >> news:uj1ffpm%23HHA.600(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> Man it's hard to see how anyone can get those version number mixed up >>> :o) >>> >>> Tom >> >> I started with VC1.0. >> If I recall, there was never a VC3, and we went from VC4 to VC4.2 >> > > But there was VC1.5 (which I think was the last 16-bit version). >
From: Alexander Nickolov on 21 Sep 2007 14:59 Well, there _was_ 1.51 before 1.52, and I believe there was 1.50 as well. The others are just upgrades with minor fixes. -- ===================================== Alexander Nickolov Microsoft MVP [VC], MCSD email: agnickolov(a)mvps.org MVP VC FAQ: http://vcfaq.mvps.org ===================================== "Tom Serface" <tom.nospam(a)camaswood.com> wrote in message news:Om%23WynF$HHA.3716(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > VC 1.52, may it RIP :o) > > Tom > > "Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]" <rbv(a)nospam.nospam> wrote in message > news:us1pRZ8%23HHA.4592(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> >> "Scott McPhillips [MVP]" <org-dot-mvps-at-scottmcp> wrote in message >> news:eQ$fLxm%23HHA.5404(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> "Tom Serface" <tom.nospam(a)camaswood.com> wrote in message >>> news:uj1ffpm%23HHA.600(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> Man it's hard to see how anyone can get those version number mixed up >>>> :o) >>>> >>>> Tom >>> >>> I started with VC1.0. >>> If I recall, there was never a VC3, and we went from VC4 to VC4.2 >>> >> >> But there was VC1.5 (which I think was the last 16-bit version). >> >
From: Tom Serface on 22 Sep 2007 00:52
Yeah, I just remember all the hoopla that went on when Microsoft went to 32 bit only. We kept the 1.52c compiler around for a long time (I suspect some people still use it). I don't think they did any versions after that. Not that I used anyway. Tom "Alexander Nickolov" <agnickolov(a)mvps.org> wrote in message news:uuCf6FI$HHA.5160(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Well, there _was_ 1.51 before 1.52, and I believe there was > 1.50 as well. The others are just upgrades with minor fixes. > > -- > ===================================== > Alexander Nickolov > Microsoft MVP [VC], MCSD > email: agnickolov(a)mvps.org > MVP VC FAQ: http://vcfaq.mvps.org > ===================================== > > "Tom Serface" <tom.nospam(a)camaswood.com> wrote in message > news:Om%23WynF$HHA.3716(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >> VC 1.52, may it RIP :o) >> |