From: John John - MVP on
William B. Lurie wrote:

> But it's working...twice went 2 hours and hibernated.

So it's fixed?

John
From: William B. Lurie on
John John - MVP wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>
>> But it's working...twice went 2 hours and hibernated.
>
> So it's fixed?
>
> John
I wish that were so, John, but I rechecked and am pretty
sure I had it set for 1 hour (cockpit error). I made two
runs this morning, carefully, making sure it was set for
1 hour, and with the two ATIs set for disabled, and again
with the 2 ATIs set for automatic, it recorded many many
normal events at start of the run, and absolutely no events
when I terminated each run after 2+ hours.

I will now try ATI services on manual. Cancel my glowing
report. One hour has always been good.
From: William B. Lurie on
William B. Lurie wrote:
> John John - MVP wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>
>>> But it's working...twice went 2 hours and hibernated.
>>
>> So it's fixed?
>>
>> John
> I wish that were so, John, but I rechecked and am pretty
> sure I had it set for 1 hour (cockpit error). I made two
> runs this morning, carefully, making sure it was set for
> 1 hour, and with the two ATIs set for disabled, and again
> with the 2 ATIs set for automatic, it recorded many many
> normal events at start of the run, and absolutely no events
> when I terminated each run after 2+ hours.
>
> I will now try ATI services on manual. Cancel my glowing
> report. One hour has always been good.

Well, I'm embarrassed and bloodied but unbowed. I can't find
settings for ATI and WIA to replicate the hibernation at 2 hours
report. I just have to disregard that as a mistake. But now to
recap.

On the plus side, John, your fix......I haven't seen an ati2-based
event since, so that has to be solid. But we can use this as a base
and move on. We feel that one of the 'services' is doing it, but
to cancel services one at a time and see what allows it to hibernate
and not kill something vital doesn't sound practical to me.
And I'm running all tests starting with Clean Boot, which is an
effort (and has its own inconsistencies in what msconfig shows and
does).

I'm curious enough to want to take my third drive (with another clone
on it) and do *only* the ATI error fix, and see what happens. It gives
us another test bed to work in, one that hasn't had a potful of messing
around with. I think I'll set that up to run, and maybe this evening
it will tell something (probably not), and by then maybe you hearty
help-mates will give me some more advice.
From: William B. Lurie on
William B. Lurie wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> John John - MVP wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>
>>>> But it's working...twice went 2 hours and hibernated.
>>>
>>> So it's fixed?
>>>
>>> John
>> I wish that were so, John, but I rechecked and am pretty
>> sure I had it set for 1 hour (cockpit error). I made two
>> runs this morning, carefully, making sure it was set for
>> 1 hour, and with the two ATIs set for disabled, and again
>> with the 2 ATIs set for automatic, it recorded many many
>> normal events at start of the run, and absolutely no events
>> when I terminated each run after 2+ hours.
>>
>> I will now try ATI services on manual. Cancel my glowing
>> report. One hour has always been good.
>
> Well, I'm embarrassed and bloodied but unbowed. I can't find
> settings for ATI and WIA to replicate the hibernation at 2 hours
> report. I just have to disregard that as a mistake. But now to
> recap.
>
> On the plus side, John, your fix......I haven't seen an ati2-based
> event since, so that has to be solid. But we can use this as a base
> and move on. We feel that one of the 'services' is doing it, but
> to cancel services one at a time and see what allows it to hibernate
> and not kill something vital doesn't sound practical to me.
> And I'm running all tests starting with Clean Boot, which is an
> effort (and has its own inconsistencies in what msconfig shows and
> does).
>
> I'm curious enough to want to take my third drive (with another clone
> on it) and do *only* the ATI error fix, and see what happens. It gives
> us another test bed to work in, one that hasn't had a potful of messing
> around with. I think I'll set that up to run, and maybe this evening
> it will tell something (probably not), and by then maybe you hearty
> help-mates will give me some more advice.

I did just that. And it was informative. See the
Systems Events Log which I'll post here:

> Type Date Time Source Category Event User Computer
> Error 4/4/2010 6:49:38 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 6:49:38 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 6:49:22 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 6:49:19 PM ati2mtag CRT 45062 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 6:21:34 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 6:21:34 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 6:06:33 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 6:06:33 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 6:06:18 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 6:06:14 PM ati2mtag CRT 45062 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 5:20:19 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 5:20:19 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 5:05:19 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 5:05:19 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 5:05:01 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 5:04:59 PM ati2mtag CRT 45062 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 5:04:56 PM Tcpip None 4201 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 4:17:08 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 4:17:08 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 3:47:08 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 3:47:08 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:42 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:41 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:31 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:31 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:30 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:26 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:26 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:26 PM SRTSP None 2003 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 Compaq_Owner COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7035 SYSTEM COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 3:32:11 PM Service Control Manager None 7026 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 3:32:08 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 3:32:08 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 3:31:53 PM W32Time None 29 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 3:31:53 PM W32Time None 17 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Error 4/4/2010 3:30:40 PM ati2mtag CRT 45062 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:30:20 PM Tcpip None 4201 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:30:47 PM eventlog None 6005 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:30:47 PM eventlog None 6009 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:29:30 PM eventlog None 6006 N/A COMPAQ-2006
> Information 4/4/2010 3:29:22 PM Service Control Manager None 7036 N/A COMPAQ-2006

Note that many many of the errors are due to W32Time, because,
disconnected from the line, it couldn't synchronize the system clock.
We don't worry about those. And everything at 3:47 PM and earlier are
part of the setting up.

Then we come to the ati2mtag Error at 5:04 .... I thought out ATI fix
would prevent that. And again at 6:06 .... and at 6:49 .... all ati2mtag
errors.

I think it was an interesting test. But a distraction from the
cleaner system on the first clone. What do you think I should do
next, John? Remember I am not able today to run a system and have
it hibernate at 2 hours. I'd love to get back to that status.
From: John John - MVP on
William B. Lurie wrote:

> On the plus side, John, your fix......I haven't seen an ati2-based
> event since, so that has to be solid. But we can use this as a base
> and move on.

What is the make and model number of your video card? Is this a dual
monitor card? Is the monitor plugged into monitor 1?

John