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From: Richard Webb on 20 Jun 2010 18:01 Liquidator writes: "> 100% spot on Phil. > I lost an expensive camera overboad a couple decades ago. > The repair shop's advice? get the battery pack out, then put it back > in distilled water and bring it to us. Yep, and I didn't do that with a $400 vhf/uhf portable. I was working a cross country horse ride, and a rainstorm came up, the tent I was in with the field base station collapsed, and I was too busy saving that gear, didn't get the battery pack off that little portable on my belt in time. IT was completely fried by the time I got into the van to work the event from my mobile station. expensive lesson. FLood waters can be nasty but this was just mostly water from the sky <grin>. But, who knows what I might have dredged up from the mudhole I found myself in inside the collapsed tent <grin>. I still have a "no food or drink" policy in the business compartment of the remote truck however. Regards, Richard .... Remote audio in the southland: See www.gatasound.com -- | Remove .my.foot for email | via Waldo's Place USA Fidonet<->Internet Gateway Site | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
From: Tim Perry on 20 Jun 2010 18:54 "bob u" <sound(a)inetnebr.com> wrote in message news:hvk5rn$vbs$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On 6/19/2010 10:46 PM, Denny Strauser wrote: >> Leon(a)nospam.com wrote: >>> Yes I did Phil. <snipped> perhaps a good proctologist could remove >>> that pickle... >> >> I wouldn't touch this with .... a ten foot "pickle." >> LMAO >> -Denny > Some rigger somewhere is standing next to a chain motor box wondering > where the pickle went.... Don't ask... don't tell... > > bob Cuke, very cuke.... I'm green with envy
From: www.locoworks.com on 21 Jun 2010 01:02 On Jun 20, 8:25 am, "liquidator" <mi...(a)mad.scientist.com> wrote: > "Phil Allison" <phi...(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message > > news:882rfcFtqsU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > > > > > > > > <L...(a)nospam.com> > > >> Phil Allison > > >>>** Audio electronics that has been submerged in muddy water ( not salt ) > >>>is > >>>mostly fully recoverable - it just needs to be thoroughly washed and > >>>made > >>>clean again. The important thing is that it is immediately rinsed out > >>>with > >>>clean water then dried in the sun or with hot air. > > >>>One of my customers had almost his entire hire stock submerged in a flood > >>>about 15 years ago - some things he just hosed off, dried out and used > >>>again. > > >>>I got to see a couple of large MOSFET power amps and also some radio mic > >>>receivers and body pack transmitters that were half full of dried mud. > > >>>Using only a garden hose, various small paint brushes, hot water, > >>>detergent > >>>and lotsa patience all of them were restored to perfect working order and > >>>condition. > > >>>The only significant damage was to the switches on the body pack > >>>transmitters - there had been a fresh 9V battery inside at the time of > >>>the > >>>flood and current flowing through the muddy water had eaten the plating > >>>away > >>>on the contacts. > > >> Yes, it all depends on the quality of the water. I was brought a 2-way > >> "lunchbox" radio once and it was totally shot. > > > ** See the first two words in my post - Leon ?? > > >> This type of radio had a battery pack with > >> 11 D cells in it, > > > ** That is the issue, not the fact that it got wet. > > > Things like mobile phones, PDAs, laptops etc are in a whole nuther > > category far as recovery after being submerged is concerned. > > > Cos the VERY FIRST thing you must do is get the unit out of the water > > immediately and get that damn battery pack OUT of it !!! > > > .... Phil > > 100% spot on Phil. > > I lost an expensive camera overboad a couple decades ago. > > The repair shop's advice? get the battery pack out, then put it back in > distilled water and bring it to us.- Hide quoted text - A maintenance guy I used to work with told me that he was working Wide World of Sports on a surf contest in Hawaii, when they lost a VR3000 (small 2" quad recorder the size of a carry-on suitcase) over the side of their boat into the Pacific. Frantic calls to Ampex resulted in the recommendation to run back to the hotel and submerge it in a bathtub full of fresh water and then dry it off. He said that it survived the treatment and lived to record again.
From: Phildo on 22 Jun 2010 18:54 "PeterD" <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in message news:p1mq16992lfo8bm4i8bprt667qg3aonmc2(a)4ax.com... >>Chances are you can revive it, but it will never be worth what it was. >>I have done some submerged electronics before. Dirt gets under chips and >>you will never get it all out short of taking every part off and >>cleaning both sides. You may not need to do this to make it functional, >>but the crud laying around long term is an unknown quantity. >> things can rust in areas you cannot see. Hell, i would buy a Midas >>for a few hundred and have some fun with it.... ;) >> > > Two other areas that we found problematic were potentiometers and > non-sealed (mechanical) meters. Dirt didn't seem to wash out of the > controls well (though spraying with cleaner helped) adn mechanical > meters were almost always trashed. (Fortunately mechanical meters are > rare today.) I helped restore the Midas that got soaked a couple of hours before the Pink Floyd Modena show when I worked at Brit Row. Long, dirty task cleaning circuit boards with cotton buds but we got the desk working again and it gave several years relatively fault-free service afterwards. Phildo
From: George's Pro Sound Co. on 22 Jun 2010 19:53
"Phildo" <Phil(a)phildo.net> wrote in message news:hvrf0e$o95$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "PeterD" <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in message > news:p1mq16992lfo8bm4i8bprt667qg3aonmc2(a)4ax.com... >>>Chances are you can revive it, but it will never be worth what it was. >>>I have done some submerged electronics before. Dirt gets under chips and >>>you will never get it all out short of taking every part off and >>>cleaning both sides. You may not need to do this to make it functional, >>>but the crud laying around long term is an unknown quantity. >>> things can rust in areas you cannot see. Hell, i would buy a Midas >>>for a few hundred and have some fun with it.... ;) >>> >> >> Two other areas that we found problematic were potentiometers and >> non-sealed (mechanical) meters. Dirt didn't seem to wash out of the >> controls well (though spraying with cleaner helped) adn mechanical >> meters were almost always trashed. (Fortunately mechanical meters are >> rare today.) > > I helped restore the Midas that got soaked a couple of hours before the > Pink Floyd Modena show when I worked at Brit Row. Long, dirty task > cleaning circuit boards with cotton buds but we got the desk working again > and it gave several years relatively fault-free service afterwards. > > Phildo soaked is a good deal diffrent than submerged for a week in flood waters > > |