What's the best free disk defragger, not in Windows, for NTFSand FAT drives/partitions?
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From: Ant on 25 Nov 2009 23:13 On 11/25/2009 7:50 PM PT, DevilsPGD typed: >> Are there any good free disk disk defraggers that can be run outside of >> Windows like with a boot disk/disc or before Windows is loaded? >> Sometimes, files can't be defragged because of them being in used. >> >> Thank you in advance. :) > > Contig. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897428.aspx says only for XP and higher. What about 2000 SP4? Can this defragger move pagefile, MFT, etc. too? -- "What is that?" "Some kind of insect?" "It's an ant." "Girl, you needed an exterminator. She had ants on her face." "Well, these aren't your garden-variety dumpster ants." "And they aren't ... to decomp." "Why are they in her stomach?" "La hormiga culona--leaf cutter ants. It's a Colombian dish." "Are you saying that people eat them?" "Fried." "Okay, so we are looking for a club that serves fried ants." --CSI: Miami (Wannabe episode; #218) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is/was listening to a song on his home computer: 505 - Cernit Trandafir
From: Meat Eaters are Sinners - Repent! on 12 Dec 2009 16:10 Rod Speed wrote: > There are plenty who cant grasp that defragging most modern systems is pointless. Do you play computer games at all? I ask because I have seen people claim their load times for games has decreased after a defrag. What say you to that?
From: David Brown on 14 Dec 2009 07:29 Don Lope de Aguirre wrote: > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:7n6eooF3ibh58U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> There is no point in furiously defragging anymore. > > How about defragging once a month at least? If it is now useless then > why does both Vista and Win7 have tasks auto set to defrag once per > week? It seems that Microsoft disagrees with you. "Microsoft disagrees with you" is as good an argument as "Kermit the Frog disagrees with you". There are so many bad choices for defaults in Windows that this is absolutely no indication that defragging is useful in general, or useful on a regular basis. There are occasional situations where defragging on windows is a good idea, and it can therefore be useful to have a defragger around. But it only makes sense to use it when you really need it (for example, to compact a file system before shrinking a disk partition). Other operating systems (Macs, Linux, BSD, AIX, Solaris, various other *nixes, etc.) either don't have any file system defragmentation tools at all, or provide them only for occasional usage. Given that writing a defragmenter is not that hard (especially when the file system provides appropriate support), the obvious conclusion is that there is no good technical reason for defragmenting in general use of these systems. With Windows, the file systems suffer more from fragmentation due to Windows stunningly bad allocation algorithms, but even there fragmentation is not typically a problem.
From: Cronos on 14 Dec 2009 12:48 David Brown wrote: > "Microsoft disagrees with you" is as good an argument as "Kermit the > Frog disagrees with you". There are so many bad choices for defaults in > Windows that this is absolutely no indication that defragging is useful > in general, or useful on a regular basis. But Microsoft is not Kermit the frog and have many very smart people working for them so I think it might be prudent to give them some credibility instead of discounting them without understanding why they have it set to auto defrag once per week. My guess is they do that because to do it once a week means it is far quicker to keep the HDDs defragged than doing it once every few months.
From: Cronos on 14 Dec 2009 12:50
Rod Speed wrote: > > Nope, the other fundamental question is whether the measured > difference is noticeable. If it isnt, its not worth worrying about. > > Whether you notice or not is beside the point because the benefit is there and is measurable regardless of if you notice it or not. I can't tell if my game is running at 24fps or 30fps but knowing it is running at 30fps is preferable. |