From: Bob on
On 22/01/2010 11:02, species8350 wrote:
> On Jan 21, 1:43 pm, Christopher A. Lee<ca...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:03:42 -0800 (PST), species8350
>>
>> <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net> wrote:
>>>> How "active" are the splitters? I suspect they might filter the audio
>>>> from the data line and vice versa. At the worst it would degrade the
>>>> data signal when that phone is used, between the router and the
>>>> Internet provider leading to more retransmission of bad data blocks.>Thanks.
>>
>>> When you say how active are the splitters, I assume that you mean how
>>> often are the phones used when the pc's are being used.
>>
>> Electronically active. A splitter for two phones has no electronics in
>> it, just wires soldered together.
>>
>> If you are piggybacking data at a higher frequency on top of the (low)
>> audio frequency of speech there might be circuitry to filter out the
>> data from the audio and vice versa.
>>
>> Which is how you wouldn't hear noise on the phones connected to the
>> splitters.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Generally, the phones are not used very much. As long as damage cant'
>>> be done to pc's, routers, etc. (my main concern)
>>
>>> Thanks for staying with me.
>>
>>> Best wishes.
>>
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>
> Are you saying that the noise created by not having that phone split
> is just an inconvenience when using that particular phone. The noise
> will not damage any of the electronic equipment connected?
>
> Thanks
One does wonder whether you read any web links you are provided with or
whether you are just trolling to see how long you can make this last.
Several months ago you were given links which explained how ADSL worked
but it appears that you have just ignored them.
From one of those links:-
"Crackling noises/static on the line when using the telephone is
indicative of incorrectly fitted filters.

* Make sure that you have installed all your filters correctly (see
here).
* It is important that each telephone device has a filter fitted.
Don't forget fax machines and sky boxes also need a filter.



~ adsl drops out when phone call is made or received.

* Incorrectly installed filters - check filters are installed
correctly see here.
* Faulty filters - replace one by one to identify which filter is
faulty."
<http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/connectionprobs.htm>



From: species8350 on
On Jan 22, 12:59 pm, Bob <b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 22/01/2010 11:02, species8350 wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 1:43 pm, Christopher A. Lee<ca...(a)optonline.net>  wrote:
> >> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:03:42 -0800 (PST), species8350
>
> >> <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net>  wrote:
> >>>> How "active" are the splitters? I suspect they might filter the audio
> >>>> from the data line and vice versa. At the worst it would degrade the
> >>>> data signal when that phone is used, between the router and the
> >>>> Internet provider leading to more retransmission of bad data blocks.>Thanks.
>
> >>> When you say how active are the splitters, I assume that you mean how
> >>> often are the phones used when the pc's are being used.
>
> >> Electronically active. A splitter for two phones has no electronics in
> >> it, just wires soldered together.
>
> >> If you are piggybacking data at a higher frequency on top of the (low)
> >> audio frequency of speech there might be circuitry to filter out the
> >> data from the audio and vice versa.
>
> >> Which is how you wouldn't hear noise on the phones connected to the
> >> splitters.
>
> >>> Generally, the phones are not used very much. As long as damage cant'
> >>> be done to pc's, routers, etc. (my main concern)
>
> >>> Thanks for staying with me.
>
> >>> Best wishes.
>
> >>> S- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Are you saying that the noise created by not having that phone split
> > is just an inconvenience when using that particular phone. The noise
> > will not damage any of the electronic equipment connected?
>
> > Thanks
>
> One does wonder whether you read any web links you are provided with or
> whether you are just trolling to see how long you can make this last.
> Several months ago you were given links which explained how ADSL worked
> but it appears that you have just ignored them.
>  From one of those links:-
> "Crackling noises/static on the line when using the telephone is
> indicative of incorrectly fitted filters.
>
>      * Make sure that you have installed all your filters correctly (see
> here).
>      * It is important that each telephone device has a filter fitted.
> Don't forget fax machines and sky boxes also need a filter.
>
> ~ adsl drops out when phone call is made or received.
>
>      * Incorrectly installed filters - check filters are installed
> correctly see here.
>      * Faulty filters - replace one by one to identify which filter is
> faulty."
> <http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/connectionprobs.htm>- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The link gives infromation, but does not say if a splitter is not
fitted for any reson whether this can lead to any equipment damage
(due to interference). In particular, which equipment could be in
danger. The interference may not case any damage, but I would like
someone 'in the know' to confirm this, or not.

I am not a Troll, just someone who wants to learn. I find NG's
effective in this acivitiy.