From: Christopher A. Lee on
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:07:16 -0800 (PST), species8350
<not_here.5.species8350(a)xoxy.net> wrote:

>This just occurs to me.
>
>I am using Channel 6.
>
>The bloke downstairs will also be using this router. Will we both be
>using Channel 6?

Unless one of you you changes it.

>Can I change the channel without affecting him?

Yes.

>Or will any Channel change also be a change for him?

No.

>Thanks

You want to change it otherwise you will be sharing the radio
bandwidth of that channel. So your equipment will listen to his
signals and vice versa even if they're encrypted, to decide whether
they're actually for you.

You and he would be on the exact same bell curve we talked about when
we discussed overlapping channels.

But don't just change it willy nilly to find a clean one on your own
because he will probably be doing the same.

Talk to him and agree to use different channels.

If he has the same problem with the guy downstairs from him, work
something out between the three of you.

From: Christopher A. Lee on
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:01:34 -0800 (PST), species8350
<not_here.5.species8350(a)xoxy.net> wrote:


>I assume that I don't logout of the router. When I have finished a
>session, I assume that I just close the browser, and when ready switch
>off the pc

You don't switch the TV cable box off either, do you?
From: Bob on
On 15/01/2010 13:47, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:07:16 -0800 (PST), species8350
> <not_here.5.species8350(a)xoxy.net> wrote:
>
>> This just occurs to me.
>>
>> I am using Channel 6.
>>
>> The bloke downstairs will also be using this router. Will we both be
>> using Channel 6?
>
> Unless one of you you changes it.
>
>> Can I change the channel without affecting him?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Or will any Channel change also be a change for him?
>
> No.
>
>> Thanks
>
> You want to change it otherwise you will be sharing the radio
> bandwidth of that channel. So your equipment will listen to his
> signals and vice versa even if they're encrypted, to decide whether
> they're actually for you.
>
> You and he would be on the exact same bell curve we talked about when
> we discussed overlapping channels.
>
> But don't just change it willy nilly to find a clean one on your own
> because he will probably be doing the same.
>
> Talk to him and agree to use different channels.

He did say "The bloke downstairs will also be using this router."
Going by all his other threads they are sharing a router.


>
> If he has the same problem with the guy downstairs from him, work
> something out between the three of you.
>

From: Christopher A. Lee on
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:04:22 +0000, Bob <bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 15/01/2010 13:47, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:07:16 -0800 (PST), species8350
>> <not_here.5.species8350(a)xoxy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> This just occurs to me.
>>>
>>> I am using Channel 6.
>>>
>>> The bloke downstairs will also be using this router. Will we both be
>>> using Channel 6?
>>
>> Unless one of you you changes it.
>>
>>> Can I change the channel without affecting him?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> Or will any Channel change also be a change for him?
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> You want to change it otherwise you will be sharing the radio
>> bandwidth of that channel. So your equipment will listen to his
>> signals and vice versa even if they're encrypted, to decide whether
>> they're actually for you.
>>
>> You and he would be on the exact same bell curve we talked about when
>> we discussed overlapping channels.
>>
>> But don't just change it willy nilly to find a clean one on your own
>> because he will probably be doing the same.
>>
>> Talk to him and agree to use different channels.
>
>He did say "The bloke downstairs will also be using this router."
>Going by all his other threads they are sharing a router.

I haven't been following them all because he seemed to be asking the
same question several times.

I thought he meant a combined modem/router supplied by the broadband
provider because neighbours don't usually share the same internet
service.

But you're right. I just found a message saying the router wasn't his
responsibility, he has permission to use it when it arrives.

So he's basically stuck with what the other guy does.

It's not up to him what channel to use. The other guy controls it at
the router. The PC will find it and lock onto it.

The caveat will be whether the other guy has set N-only and he doesn't
have N. Of course another issue is whether the signal is strong enough
to punch through the floor.

I wouldn't do this with my current router because I like my security
but recent ones support guest pass keys which allow access to a subset
of the network.

>> If he has the same problem with the guy downstairs from him, work
>> something out between the three of you.
>>
From: species8350 on
On Jan 15, 2:40 pm, Christopher A. Lee <ca...(a)optonline.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:04:22 +0000, Bob <b...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >On 15/01/2010 13:47, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
> >> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:07:16 -0800 (PST), species8350
> >> <not_here.5.species8...(a)xoxy.net>  wrote:
>
> >>> This just occurs to me.
>
> >>> I am using Channel 6.
>
> >>> The bloke downstairs will also be using this router. Will we both be
> >>> using Channel 6?
>
> >> Unless one of you you changes it.
>
> >>> Can I change the channel without affecting him?
>
> >> Yes.
>
> >>> Or will any Channel change also be a change for him?
>
> >> No.
>
> >>> Thanks
>
> >> You want to change it otherwise you will be sharing the radio
> >> bandwidth of that channel. So your equipment will listen to his
> >> signals and vice versa even if they're encrypted, to decide whether
> >> they're actually for you.
>
> >> You and he would be on the exact same bell curve we talked about when
> >> we discussed overlapping channels.
>
> >> But don't just change it willy nilly to find a clean one on your own
> >> because he will probably be doing the same.
>
> >> Talk to him and agree to use different channels.
>
> >He did say "The bloke downstairs will also be using this router."
> >Going by all his other threads they are sharing a router.
>
> I haven't been following them all because he seemed to be asking the
> same question several times.
>
> I thought he meant a combined modem/router supplied by the broadband
> provider because neighbours don't usually share the same internet
> service.
>
> But you're right. I just found a message saying the router wasn't his
> responsibility, he has permission to use it when it arrives.
>
> So he's basically stuck with what the other guy does.
>
> It's not up to him what channel to use. The other guy controls it at
> the router. The PC will find it and lock onto it.
>
> The caveat will be whether the other guy has set N-only and he doesn't
> have N. Of course another issue is whether the signal is strong enough
> to punch through the floor.
>
> I wouldn't do this with my current router because I like my security
> but recent ones support guest pass keys which allow access to a subset
> of the network.
>
>
>
> >> If he has the same problem with the guy downstairs from him, work
> >> something out between the three of you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, the signal is punching through the floor.

The router is a G type.

I am a bit confused as to whether I can change the channel
independently from the bloke who shares the router.

Because we share the router must we use the same channel.

If I get permission to login to the router can I select a different
channel, and the bloke can do likewise.

Otherwise, as said we will be using the same bell curve

As you can see, I am not sure what independence I can gain via the
router.

Thanks