From: Bob on

>
> Does your install include /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?  If so,
> rename it to get it out of the way and then do startx.
> For some time, xorg has been good at probing hardware
> installing the right stuff ... but it defers to what
> you said in xorg.conf.  And that was for the other box.

Thanks, that worked! Dont know why its so hard for
system-config-display to try that if all else fails.

From: Bryce on
Bob wrote:

>
>>
>> Does your install include /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? If so,
>> rename it to get it out of the way and then do startx.
>> For some time, xorg has been good at probing hardware
>> installing the right stuff ... but it defers to what
>> you said in xorg.conf. And that was for the other box.
>
> Thanks, that worked! Dont know why its so hard for
> system-config-display to try that if all else fails.

The only rough edge to allowing xorg to probe rather than
follow a preordained video setup shows itself when you boot
before powering up the monitor. xorg does the best it can
and sets up too-low resolution.

Glad you're back in business!
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia on
On Feb 6, 5:26 pm, Bob <j...(a)rahul.net> wrote:
> > Does your install include /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?  If so,
> > rename it to get it out of the way and then do startx.
> > For some time, xorg has been good at probing hardware
> > installing the right stuff ... but it defers to what
> > you said in xorg.conf.  And that was for the other box.
>
> Thanks, that worked!  Dont know why its so hard for
> system-config-display to try that if all else fails.

Submit that as a bug report or feature request to Fedora! Seriously:
configuring X has been an amazing adventure over the years, and tends
to suffer from the "look at this exciting thing I can show off!"
rather than providing simple options for "Aunt Tillie" to be able to
set up her system. (If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up
the "Luxury of Ignorance" by Eric Raymond.)
From: Matt Giwer on
Bob wrote:
> I have Fedora 12 running on an older computer. That computer
> started to get flakey so I put the hard drive into a newer computer
> as my boot drive. Now Linux wont recognize the new video card
> (which is built in on the motherboard). I dont know what the video
> card is to find out what driver I need.
>
> Is there a command I can do to find out what the video 'card'
> is so I can install the correct driver?
>
> I tried system-config-display but it fails to start X server.
> I also tried 'X -configure' with no luck.
>
> I dont get why 'they' just dont fix system-config-display so
> it will do what the setup does during the first install (revert
> back to whatever video mode works) so you can select
> the proper driver/mode/screen etc.
>
> As a side note, when it boots, it sure knows how to use the
> video because its in a graphics mode showing the text there.
>
> I dont get it. Ive had many problems over the years with this
> exact issue between machines.

If all else fails I have had luck "re-installing" the distribution but
telling the installation routine that it was an upgrade rather than a new
install. Everything I had customized was preserved and it did fix the issues.

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From: unruh on
On 2010-02-07, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 5:26?pm, Bob <j...(a)rahul.net> wrote:
>> > Does your install include /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? ?If so,
>> > rename it to get it out of the way and then do startx.
>> > For some time, xorg has been good at probing hardware
>> > installing the right stuff ... but it defers to what
>> > you said in xorg.conf. ?And that was for the other box.
>>
>> Thanks, that worked! ?Dont know why its so hard for
>> system-config-display to try that if all else fails.

Because the existence of /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a flag to the new xorg
that it should NOT try to identify stuff itself, but that, for one
reason or another, the users wants it to use a different setup from the
default.

>
> Submit that as a bug report or feature request to Fedora! Seriously:
> configuring X has been an amazing adventure over the years, and tends
> to suffer from the "look at this exciting thing I can show off!"
> rather than providing simple options for "Aunt Tillie" to be able to
> set up her system. (If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up
> the "Luxury of Ignorance" by Eric Raymond.)

It is already there. If xorg.conf does not exist, it tries to set it up
on its own, without user input. That they give you the option of
overriding that automatic process is a GOOD thing. Aunt Tillie can
blithely ignore xorg.conf, until something goes wrong of course ( with
thousands of different video cards, keyboards, mice, pads,... out there,
something is bound to go wrong sometimes).

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