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From: Arno on 20 Jan 2010 18:15 In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. <mail(a)nomail.net> wrote: > you don't say What is the point of your postings so far? Arno > -- > -- > "Arno" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:7rntsoF5s3U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. <mail(a)nomail.net> wrote: >>> Don't really need it, by the time a PC hits my bench the drive is usually >>> to >>> the point where even the geek squad could tell it's bad. >> >> Well, there is "bad" and "bad". Not all storege failures >> are due to a bad drive. It can also be interface errors, bad >> mounting, a marginal PSU. And the drive can have bad secotrs, >> seek problems, can have died from heat, etc. >> >> Arno >> >>> -- >> >> >>> -- >>> "Arno" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >>> news:7rmiq8Fo52U3(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage David B. <mail(a)nomail.net> wrote: >>>>> A smart report is useless, more often than not when I find a bad hard >>>>> drive. >>>>> smart believes there is no problem with the drive, it's unreliable at >>>>> best. >>>> >>>> Nobody said to look at the "smart status", which is pretty useless. >>>> Hovever the concrete values of the individual SMART attributes are >>>> not. Seems you are not using 99% of what SMART offers. >>>> >>>> Arno >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> "Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67(a)spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4b55ca94$1(a)news.bnb-lp.com... >>>>>> Gary wrote: >>>>>>> What does it usually mean when I run a disk scan for bad sectors on c >>>>>>> drive and the result is "Windows was unable to complete the disk >>>>>>> scan" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The symptom is a blue screen saying that there is most likely a bad >>>>>>> piece >>>>>>> of hardware. >>>>>> >>>>>> Download the free Everest utilities, from the following website: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.lavalys.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Run the Storage -> SMART report on the appropriate hard drive, and >>>>>> post >>>>>> the results to your reply. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yousuf Khan >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: >>>> arno(a)wagner.name >>>> GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 >>>> 338F >>>> ---- >>>> Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans >> >> >> -- >> Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: >> arno(a)wagner.name >> GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 >> 338F >> ---- >> Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno(a)wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans
From: Cronos on 21 Jan 2010 06:48 Rod Speed wrote: > Wrong. You do need to be able to interpret the raw data and not > just mindlessly look at the OKs, and when you do that, you can often > see a failing hard drive from the number of reallocated sectors etc. Yes well, us idiots that can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag like to be shown the error with pretty pictures, and HDTune does just that. But I see HDTune is no longer free, has trial version or pay for version. Good thing I downloaded it when it was free.
From: Cronos on 21 Jan 2010 06:52 Yousuf Khan wrote: >>But the SMART raw data fields > require human intelligence to interpret. Intelligent people don't sit around yapping about HDDs all day. They spend it reading Kafka, Hesse, Sarte, etc. I think you mean, requires knowledge and not "intelligence". Anyway, no way am I going to credit Rod Speed as an intelligent being. ;)
From: Gerry on 21 Jan 2010 07:07 Cronos You were saying -"HDTune is no longer free"? http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4130.html -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cronos" <cronos(a)sphere.invalid> wrote in message news:hj9eto$6hn$5(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Rod Speed wrote: > >> Wrong. You do need to be able to interpret the raw data and not >> just mindlessly look at the OKs, and when you do that, you can often >> see a failing hard drive from the number of reallocated sectors etc. > > Yes well, us idiots that can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag > like to be shown the error with pretty pictures, and HDTune does just > that. But I see HDTune is no longer free, has trial version or pay for > version. Good thing I downloaded it when it was free.
From: Arno on 21 Jan 2010 08:09
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Cronos <cronos(a)sphere.invalid> wrote: > Yousuf Khan wrote: >>>But the SMART raw data fields >> require human intelligence to interpret. > Intelligent people don't sit around yapping about HDDs all day. They > spend it reading Kafka, Hesse, Sarte, etc. I think you mean, requires > knowledge and not "intelligence". Anyway, no way am I going to credit > Rod Speed as an intelligent being. ;) I found both Kafka and Hesse to be exceedingly boring and often obvious. Quite a waste of time. Did not try Sartre. What it takes is intelligence to recognize it is actually a difficult problem (which is rather hard for many people, obviously) and experience to give intelligence something to work with. Knowledge does not really come into it besides that. otherwise you could just read up oh how to do it. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno(a)wagner.name GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans |