From: Gordon Sande on
On 2010-04-23 15:11:25 -0300, glen herrmannsfeldt <gah(a)> said:

> Gordon Sande <Gordon.Sande(a)> wrote:
> (snip about lager)
>> If it boiled wouldn't the alcohol come off first? Sort of defeats the
>> purpose! I expect modern pasteurized beer involves some careful control
>> of the pressures and containment during the heat treatment.
> The phase diagram of ethanol/water is a little more interesting
> than some other mixtures. One result is that you can't get
> higher than 95% ethanol by distillation, as at that point the
> water and ethanol evaporate at the same rate.
> As was explained in a thermodynamics class that I once took,
> when you go to get the bottles of ethanol for your party, get
> the 95% ones, not the 100% ones, which have traces of the chemicals
> needed to get out that last 5% water.

The chemistry graduate students I knew were well aware of that.
They had a reputation for "interesting" parties. I understood that
the higher values were obtained by distilling off benzene, whatever
that means when explained is smaller understandable steps.

They were also keen on flavoring with ethyl citrate as it tastes fruity
and turns into ethanol and a citrate salt in the stomaache's acid environment
according to the stories I heard.

Whatever happened to "Candy is dandy ..."

> I don't remember the concentration of ethanol that is left
> after distilling, though. But if you want to keep the alcohol,
> condense it and return it to the mixture.
> -- glen

From: Jerry Avins on
On 4/23/2010 3:09 PM, Gordon Sande wrote:


> Whatever happened to "Candy is dandy ..."

It's where it always was, a prefix to "But liquor is quicker."

"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no
God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
Thomas Jefferson to the Virginia House of Delegates in 1776.
From: Rick Lyons on
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:53:58 -0700 (PDT), brent
<bulegoge(a)> wrote:

>On Apr 19, 8:32�pm, Rick Lyons <> wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:37:08 -0700 (PDT), brent
>> Oh shoot. �If you didn't see "Dirty harry" then that
>> quote will have little meaning. �You should consider
>> renting the movie sometime. �You won't be sorry.
>> Well, my other quote is NOT from a Clint Eastwood movie. �
>> Here's the other quote:
>> � �"You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're
>> � � dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with
>> � � a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with
>> � � his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore
>> � � pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat
>> � � things that would make a billy goat puke. Overseas
>> � � his job was to dispose of enemy personnel.
>> � � To kill! Period! Win by attrition."
>That has gotta be Rambo. But I do not recall the scene.

Yes, you are correct,it's from the first Rambo
movie, "First Blood."

>But somehow
>I am starting to sense these quotes are being directed towards me -

Oh no. Not in any way Brent. I just like
macho dialogue in movies.

See Ya',
From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on

Eric Jacobsen wrote:

> On 4/20/2010 3:38 PM, Jerry Avins wrote:
>> On 4/20/2010 4:06 PM, Heinrich Wolf wrote:
>> ...
>>> In 1938, when the Sudetenland, the mostly German speaking part of
>>> Czechoslovakia, came to Germany, Pilsen stayed in the Czech state, a
>>> few kilometers from the new border, while Budweis came to Germany.
>> Thank you for the interesting history. When visiting Berlin on business,
>> I has some (German) Budweiser in a Kneipe I had been brought to one
>> evening. I pronounced it far superior to its US counterpart and was told
>> by several people there that the Czech Budweiser was even better. With
>> Budweis part of (then)* East Germany, how is that?
>> Jerry
> I had what I was assured was a genuine Czech Budweiser once when I was
> in central Russia. It wasn't very good so I wasn't confident of its
> provenance.
> I drink American Budweiser once in a great while, usually when with
> friends when that's what's available. It barely tastes like beer to me,
> but I tell myself it's not that bad for what it is. It's not really a
> bad taste, mostly just a lack thereof.

One thing seems to be common among comp.dspers: the preference for real
beer. I guess this is a result of the preference for real things in
general; as a matter of life philosophy :-)


From: Greg Berchin on
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:30:58 -0500, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nospam(a)>

>One thing seems to be common among comp.dspers: the preference for real

I'm a teetotaler.

>I guess this is a result of the preference for real things in

You lose half the information when you ignore the imaginary part.

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