Canon and Panasonic: updated models
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From: SMS on 27 May 2010 21:22 On 27/05/10 4:22 PM, Bowser wrote: > Uh, not really. I own an FZ35 and while I love it, it's clearly not in > the same league as any DSLR with regards to image quality or AF speed. > Not to say it's bad; it's quite good. But nowhere near a DSLR. You've got to understand the issue here. Apparently our favorite troll has an FZ-35/FZ-38 so by default that camera becomes the perfect camera and it can have no faults. Unlike you and I, who could objectively look at most any item we own and point out both its highs and lows to someone who inquires about it, there are people that immediately after purchasing an item feel compelled to justify the purchase to the entire world and make it clear that their purchasing decision was in fact the best possible one. It's deep-seated insecurity that causes this behavior. The reality is that it at low ISO settings the FZ-35/FZ-38 produces acceptable results, and it has many highly desirable features. But it is neither the best quality ZLR in terms of noise or image quality, nor is it anywhere close to quality of a D-SLR.
From: John Navas on 27 May 2010 21:40 On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:22:59 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in <4bff1afc$0$1591$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>: >On 27/05/10 4:22 PM, Bowser wrote: > >> Uh, not really. I own an FZ35 and while I love it, it's clearly not in >> the same league as any DSLR with regards to image quality or AF speed. >> Not to say it's bad; it's quite good. But nowhere near a DSLR. > >You've got to understand the issue here. Apparently our favorite troll >has an FZ-35/FZ-38 so by default that camera becomes the perfect camera >and it can have no faults. > >Unlike you and I, who could objectively look at most any item we own and >point out both its highs and lows to someone who inquires about it, >there are people that immediately after purchasing an item feel >compelled to justify the purchase to the entire world and make it clear >that their purchasing decision was in fact the best possible one. It's >deep-seated insecurity that causes this behavior. > >The reality is that it at low ISO settings the FZ-35/FZ-38 produces >acceptable results, and it has many highly desirable features. >But it is neither the best quality ZLR in terms of noise or image >quality, nor is it anywhere close to quality of a D-SLR. The actual reality is that you have zero experience with any of these cameras, and have no idea what you're talking about. -- Best regards, John Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, it makes you a dSLR owner. "The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams
From: David J Taylor on 28 May 2010 04:52 "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message news:4bff1afc$0$1591$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... [] > The reality is that it at low ISO settings the FZ-35/FZ-38 produces > acceptable results, and it has many highly desirable features. > But it is neither the best quality ZLR in terms of noise or image > quality, nor is it anywhere close to quality of a D-SLR. Yes, many small-sensor cameras can produce adequate photos under good lighting conditions, but many do not work well at higher ISO settings (e.g. ISO 3200) and few have the wide-aperture lenses (e.g. f/1.8) available to DSLRs. With the DSLR can can buy whatever lens quality you wish to afford, with the ZLR you are stuck with what's provided. Your needs, your money, your choice. David
From: J. Caldwell on 28 May 2010 05:44 On Fri, 28 May 2010 09:52:40 +0100, "David J Taylor" <david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote: >"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message >news:4bff1afc$0$1591$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >[] >> The reality is that it at low ISO settings the FZ-35/FZ-38 produces >> acceptable results, and it has many highly desirable features. >> But it is neither the best quality ZLR in terms of noise or image >> quality, nor is it anywhere close to quality of a D-SLR. > >Yes, many small-sensor cameras can produce adequate photos under good >lighting conditions, but many do not work well at higher ISO settings >(e.g. ISO 3200) and few have the wide-aperture lenses (e.g. f/1.8) >available to DSLRs. With the DSLR can can buy whatever lens quality you >wish to afford, with the ZLR you are stuck with what's provided. > >Your needs, your money, your choice. > >David Hmm.... buy 15 different P&S cameras, or for the same price buy worthwhile glass for a DSLR that doesn't provide any greater resolution, better CA correction, nor image quality .... decisions decisions ...
From: F on 28 May 2010 06:41
On 27/05/2010 16:07 Dave Cohen wrote: > If I do upgrade again, I would get the SX20 unless the SX1 IS were > available at worthwhile cost saving. I don't find the AA batteries to be > a disadvantage except for a little more size and weight and I insist on > having some form of viewfinder, something that seems to be omitted from > more and more p&s's. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and pointers. I now have an SX1 IS on order. I was more than pleased with my FZ30, it did all that I wanted of it, and it did it well. My main reasons for seeking a replacement were not because I was disappointed with it but because the flash release button had come away and was going to cost too much to repair, some images were starting to be corrupted when they were saved and I wanted a longer zoom. The possibility of HD video was also a temptation. The temptation to wait for the next new iteration, however, was never very strong. I was just concerned that if I bought today and a new one was announced tomorrow I might just have missed something that was 'better'. Note the *might*! As for the SX1, as well as good reviews, it's very 'controllable', it has a fast burst mode, it has a viewfinder (which I consider vital), the LCD can be rotated (again, very useful and missing on the later Panasonics) and it uses AA batteries. Oh, and there's currently a �50 cashback offer on it from Canon. The only downside I can see is that, like the later Panasonics, it doesn't have the manual zoom ring of the FZ30. Time will tell on whether or not I made the right decision... -- F |