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From: nospam on 28 May 2010 14:31 In article <XNTLn.5310$z%6.360(a)edtnps83>, Dudley Hanks <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: > The sad thing about John is that, as has been previously pointed out, his > comments seem more intended to justify his purchase than to explore the art > / science of picture taking. very true, and he considers anything other than what he purchased is junk. point out an advantage of a different product and it's "i don't need that feature." that's wonderful but other people might. > As a recent purchaser of a superzoom, I like it, and I believe it can > produce better pics than my Rebel XSi in a limited number of situations, but > the overall nod has to go to the DSLR because of the larger sensor and lens > interchangeability. of course. it depends whether someone wants convenience and portability versus quality and flexibility. there's a reason why pro photographers don't use compact digicams.
From: DanP on 28 May 2010 14:55 On May 28, 2:40 am, John Navas <jnsp...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:22:59 -0700, SMS <scharf.ste...(a)geemail.com> > wrote in <4bff1afc$0$1591$742ec...(a)news.sonic.net>: > > > > > > >On 27/05/10 4:22 PM, Bowser wrote: > > >> Uh, not really. I own an FZ35 and while I love it, it's clearly not in > >> the same league as any DSLR with regards to image quality or AF speed. > >> Not to say it's bad; it's quite good. But nowhere near a DSLR. > > >You've got to understand the issue here. Apparently our favorite troll > >has an FZ-35/FZ-38 so by default that camera becomes the perfect camera > >and it can have no faults. > > >Unlike you and I, who could objectively look at most any item we own and > >point out both its highs and lows to someone who inquires about it, > >there are people that immediately after purchasing an item feel > >compelled to justify the purchase to the entire world and make it clear > >that their purchasing decision was in fact the best possible one. It's > >deep-seated insecurity that causes this behavior. > > >The reality is that it at low ISO settings the FZ-35/FZ-38 produces > >acceptable results, and it has many highly desirable features. > >But it is neither the best quality ZLR in terms of noise or image > >quality, nor is it anywhere close to quality of a D-SLR. > > The actual reality is that you have zero experience with any of these > cameras, and have no idea what you're talking about. > > -- > Best regards, > John > > Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, > it makes you a dSLR owner. > "The single most important component of a camera > is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams Erm, have you ever tried a DSLR? DanP
From: SMS on 28 May 2010 15:04 On 28/05/10 11:18 AM, Dudley Hanks wrote: > "SMS"<scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message > news:4bffdaf5$0$1600$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >> On 28/05/10 6:05 AM, Bowser wrote: >> >>> Yes, I know the issue and I know Navas' tactics very well. He makes >>> ridiculous claims and never provides any proof to back them. I'll pass >>> on the banter this time. It's tiring and he's beginning to really bore >>> me. >> >> I kill-filed him years ago. His lack of knowledge is not limited just to >> digital cameras, but extends to other fields as well. It's amusing at >> first, then as you stated, it gets boring. > > He's a member in good standing of my kill file as well... > > The sad thing about John is that, as has been previously pointed out, his > comments seem more intended to justify his purchase than to explore the art > / science of picture taking. It's always amusing, though rather sad, to see Usenet (and other forum) posts where the sole purpose of the poster is to try to justify their purchase. It's as if it's a personal insult when someone points out even the slightest flaw in the product and why some other product might be better. For most people, there's not a single item they've ever purchased that they could not point out some issue with, and often they were well aware of the issue prior to the purchase. If someone asks about something they own, they're likely to be honest about it and point out both the pros and cons, and why they made their selection. > As a recent purchaser of a superzoom, I like it, and I believe it can > produce better pics than my Rebel XSi in a limited number of situations, but > the overall nod has to go to the DSLR because of the larger sensor and lens > interchangeability. For outdoor photos in good light with non-moving subjects, a superzoom can produce good results, and is certainly more convenient than a D-SLR. The reason why D-SLR sales are going up so much faster is the situations where they excel--low light, moving subjects, and better wide angle and telephoto lenses than the compromise lenses on the ZLRs.
From: C. Werner on 28 May 2010 15:11 On Fri, 28 May 2010 11:55:01 -0700 (PDT), DanP <dan.petre(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On May 28, 2:40�am, John Navas <jnsp...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 27 May 2010 18:22:59 -0700, SMS <scharf.ste...(a)geemail.com> >> wrote in <4bff1afc$0$1591$742ec...(a)news.sonic.net>: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On 27/05/10 4:22 PM, Bowser wrote: >> >> >> Uh, not really. I own an FZ35 and while I love it, it's clearly not in >> >> the same league as any DSLR with regards to image quality or AF speed. >> >> Not to say it's bad; it's quite good. But nowhere near a DSLR. >> >> >You've got to understand the issue here. Apparently our favorite troll >> >has an FZ-35/FZ-38 so by default that camera becomes the perfect camera >> >and it can have no faults. >> >> >Unlike you and I, who could objectively look at most any item we own and >> >point out both its highs and lows to someone who inquires about it, >> >there are people that immediately after purchasing an item feel >> >compelled to justify the purchase to the entire world and make it clear >> >that their purchasing decision was in fact the best possible one. It's >> >deep-seated insecurity that causes this behavior. >> >> >The reality is that it at low ISO settings the FZ-35/FZ-38 produces >> >acceptable results, and it has many highly desirable features. >> >But it is neither the best quality ZLR in terms of noise or image >> >quality, nor is it anywhere close to quality of a D-SLR. >> >> The actual reality is that you have zero experience with any of these >> cameras, and have no idea what you're talking about. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> John >> >> Buying a dSLR doesn't make you a photographer, >> it makes you a dSLR owner. >> "The single most important component of a camera >> is the twelve inches behind it." -Ansel Adams > >Erm, have you ever tried a DSLR? > > >DanP I sold my favorite one (and gave a couple away) when I found out that high-quality P&S cameras were far more adaptable and versatile with just as good, if not better, image quality in some of them. You might want to actually compare cameras some day and put them through their paces instead of listening to all the insecure trolls online trying to justify why they wasted so much money trying to get their DSLRs to get decent snapshots. If you had as many wide-ranging creative requirements as I do for my photographic gear, and could actually think for yourself, you'd ditch your DSLRs too.
From: LOL! on 28 May 2010 15:14
On Fri, 28 May 2010 18:18:31 GMT, "Dudley Hanks" <dhanks(a)blind-apertures.ca> wrote: > >"SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message >news:4bffdaf5$0$1600$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >> On 28/05/10 6:05 AM, Bowser wrote: >> >>> Yes, I know the issue and I know Navas' tactics very well. He makes >>> ridiculous claims and never provides any proof to back them. I'll pass >>> on the banter this time. It's tiring and he's beginning to really bore >>> me. >> >> I kill-filed him years ago. His lack of knowledge is not limited just to >> digital cameras, but extends to other fields as well. It's amusing at >> first, then as you stated, it gets boring. > >He's a member in good standing of my kill file as well... > >The sad thing about John is that, as has been previously pointed out, his >comments seem more intended to justify his purchase than to explore the art >/ science of picture taking. > >As a recent purchaser of a superzoom, I like it, and I believe it can >produce better pics than my Rebel XSi in a limited number of situations, but >the overall nod has to go to the DSLR because of the larger sensor and lens >interchangeability. > And you would know this because .... You actually see the images you take? News Flash: Blind Photographer hired by DPReview to do all their latest camera and lens reviews. Word has it that he's even better than their present camera reviewers. (Actually, there wouldn't be much difference.) LOL! |