Computer about to be thrown out of the window
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From: Matt on 6 Feb 2005 19:28 Trent SC wrote: >>>The installation went fine, but the computer hung during the installation >>>of SP2 (the very first thing I did after XP was on) and while SP2 took >>>fine once I'd rebooted, and Office 2000 went on fine, it's continued to >>>hang, most often when I'm in My Computer and mousing over an icon in >>>Tiles view format. And I didn't get a chance to go online before it >>>hung, so I just took out the new hard drive and shoved the old one back >>>in before I lost it completely. >> >>When it hangs, does it freeze completely, or does the pointer respond to >>mouse movements? >> >>What happens when you run memtes86 (see www.memtest86.com)? >> >>My Dell is acting very similar to your computer, and it causes memtest86 >>to hang withing 10 seconds. > > > No, when it hangs it's utterly dead. The reset switch is the only way to > get any response at all. I haven't run Memtest, but I have tried several > others and they've all run clear. > > I've run three memory test programs, and memtest86 is the only one to hang or find problems.
From: kony on 6 Feb 2005 19:35 On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:21:46 -0500, Dr. Harvie Wahl-Banghor <harvie_wahl-bangor(a)mindless.com> wrote: >Try disabling the L2 cache in the BIOS, also. I've seen that go bad >before. > > L2 is on the CPU in this case, not likely to have gone bad and if it did the CPU should be tossed out.
From: Toolman Tim on 6 Feb 2005 20:07 "kony" <spam(a)spam.com> wrote in message news:mjed01psvgpthcq64t2j2ose60lfvbft72(a)4ax.com... | On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:21:46 -0500, Dr. Harvie Wahl-Banghor | <harvie_wahl-bangor(a)mindless.com> wrote: | | | >Try disabling the L2 cache in the BIOS, also. I've seen that go bad | >before. | > | > | | L2 is on the CPU in this case, not likely to have gone bad | and if it did the CPU should be tossed out. At the cost of that CPU, I'd say get another one and try... http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CEL76617&cat=CPU
From: Toolman Tim on 6 Feb 2005 20:09 "Trent SC" <trent(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:4206b369$0$47473$ed2619ec(a)ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... | >>>There's only an HSP56 modem on the machine (no NIC) and the machine has | >>>frozen with that both enabled and disabled in the BIOS. So it MUST be | >>>either PSU, CPU or motherboard. | >> | >> I can't think of a PSU problem that would abruptly cause the machine to | >> freeze. If the fans are running and the disks are turning, the PSU is | >> okay. That leaves CPU or motherboard. | > | > How do you say the PSU can't cause lockups? | >> | >> Has the machine ever been subject to power surges or overheating? | >> | >> The last time I had a CPU get sick, it produced exactly this kind of | >> mystery freeze-up, along with mysterious segment violations in programs | >> that had never shown the slightest trace of bugs before. For a long | >> time I thought it was an OS problem or a peripheral problem. But the | >> CPU got worse and worse and finally it became obvious that the | >> microprocessor had failed. This happened originally because it had | >> overheated for an extended period (12 hours at a stretch on multiple | >> occasions) because of a CPU fan failure. In the beginning it was a real | >> mystery. | > | > I'm having symptoms similar to those of the OP, and have reason to suspect | > past CPU overheating and/or past power problems. Am leaning toward the P4 | > CPU as the cause. | | I don't think it's a CPU issue in my situation, as the problem can sometimes | happen almost as soon as I've booted up, and I've checked the heatsink | immediately after a crash and it's been v cool. | A 'bad' CPU doesn't have to get hot to hang.
From: Mxsmanic on 6 Feb 2005 20:31
Matt writes: > How do you say the PSU can't cause lockups? By what mechanism would it cause them? In general, a PSU either provides power or it doesn't. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |