From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on
That reminds me

When I was a PC manager at Intel
And people were running out of HD space
(Back in the 500MB Hard Drive Days)

Since Intel would not pay for "UPGRADES"

I told the person to issue a Support call and say
"My Hard Drive is Making Noises and I'm worried about it dying"

Then I could have the Tech put in a bigger hard drive :)

Russ

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"shawn" <yuppicide138(a)removethisoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:#xNhcwkrKHA.732(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I wish there was a way it could fry my hard drive.. these PC's are so old
> at work and need replacing.
>
> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message
> news:E50E2C72-169E-4FC1-BF3B-9807B6EBC52E(a)microsoft.com...
>> an update won't FRY your hard drive
>> If you put that Hard drive on another PC
>> you will be able to see the data on there
>> If you can not READ data off of that hard drive
>> This was not an Update that caused it
>> It was a hard drive failure
>> Sorry
>> Russ
>>
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>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>> Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist
>> 24hr SBS Remote Support - www.SBITS.Biz
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>>
>> "ANGELKISSES420" <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:0435994E-3BE6-4BAC-B2D9-F6DD7AF18142(a)microsoft.com...
>>> okay.. i found out.. the UPDATE ... fried my hard drive.. thats why i
>>> cant
>>> boot from disk.. that sucks.. and microsoft wont pay for it... i tested
>>> a
>>> different harddrive.. and it works.. because it doesnt have that update
>>> on
>>> it.and that update isnt on it.. so it works.. im pissed..
>>>
>>> "ANGELKISSES420" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I WANTED TO TELL EVERYONE & ASK THEM PLEASE DO NOT DO THE NEW WINDOWS
>>>> XP
>>>> UPDATES!!! THEY ARE MORE HARM THAN GOOD.. THEY SAY ITS NEW SECURITY
>>>> UPDATES..
>>>> IM SORRY BUT NO. THEY DON'T FIX YOUR COMPUTER, THEY MESS IT UP.. AFTER
>>>> DOWNLOADING, AND INSTALLING( I HAD TO SHUT DOWN, TO COMPLETE THE
>>>> UPDATE) I
>>>> DID... AND NOW MY COMPUTER WONT OPEN WINDOWS.. IT TAKES ME TO THE BLACK
>>>> SCREEN, THAT SAYS "START IN SAFE MODE, lAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIG.. OR
>>>> START
>>>> NORMALLY" IVE TRIED EVERY OPTION, WINDOWS WONT OPEN.. THE LAST UPDATES
>>>> MESS
>>>> UP YOUR COMPUTER, IF YOU TRY TO OPEN WINDOWS, YOU CANT. AND EVEN IF YOU
>>>> DO
>>>> SET A RESTORE POINT.. IT WONT DO ANY GOOD.. BECAUSE YOU WONT EVEN GET
>>>> TO GO
>>>> BACK TO THAT RESTORE POINT. ALL YOU'LL SEE IS THAT LITTLE BLACKSCREEN.
>>>> NO
>>>> MATTER WHAT YOU DO.. THEN YOULL BE SITTING HERE ON THE PHONE WITH
>>>> MICROSOFT
>>>> FOR 5 HRS:) AND NOTHING WILL COME FROM THAT, YOU WILL HAVE LOST ALL
>>>> YOUR
>>>> INFORMATION, AND POSSIBLY FRYED YOUR HARDDRIVE.. SO FOR THOSE PEOPLE
>>>> WHINING
>>>> THAT THEIR UPDATES WONT INSTALL.. DONT WHINE. YOURE ONE OF THE LUCKY
>>>> ONES..
>>>> EVERYONE IN MY TOWN THAT HAD WINDOWS XP.. THEIR COMPUTER HAS CRASHED
>>>> AFTER
>>>> THE UPDATE.. SO FEEL LUCKY!!!! AND PLEASE.. DO NOT DOWNLOAD OR INSTALL
>>>> THE
>>>> UPDATES.. IF YOU DO.. AND IT MESSES UP YOUR COMPUTER. SORRY BUT I
>>>> WARNED YOU.
>>
>
>
From: ANGELKISSES420 on
Its funny,, people say it wasnt the update. the update wouldnt cause the
problem that i couldnt boot from disk unless i was infected. but its funny,
because no matter what xp disk i tried to boot from, it would not boot... but
yet i put vista or 7 in, and it would boot. so therefore it wasnt a hardware
issue, it wasnt me not having my bios settings correct. im a very careful
person, i have antivirus, and programs to check for malware & spyware &
adware, and i run multiple scans daily, yet there was nothing there. im still
pretty convinced that it was a bad update, and am going to be. considering i
know alot of people personally that have this problem.

From: ANGELKISSES420 on
no matter what i did, xp wouldnt boot from disk, i checked bios settings &
checked multiple disks.. and it still wouldnt boot from disk. but yet the
minute i put vista in, it booted from disk no problem.. so it wasnt a
hardware issue.. because how could it be a hardware issue if it boots other
disks besides xp? so therefore, i installed vista. and now my computer works.
people argue that it wasnt the update that caused it, and say "its your
hardware" or "the update did that because you had malware" im sorry but i
dont think so. my hardware was and is fine. also i take very good care of my
pc.. i have antivirus, good firewall, and ANTI adware,malware, spyware
programs. that are actually trusted.. so until im proved otherwise, its an
update issue.. i just think its funny and ironic, people tell me its a
hardware issue, or i dont have the settings correct, when it works perfectly
fine with an os that isnt xp.. or the fact that i personally know alot of
people who have this issue, that couldnt boot from disk on 10 xp disks. but
can boot perfectly fine on one of the newer os'.. and they were all told the
same from microsoft.. that it was hardware, virus, or their fault. that it
wasnt an update.. and people constantly argue that its not the update, that
people dont have that problem.. but if anyone googles "bad xp update" or "bad
xp update bsod" its all over the internet. people asking for help.. people
not understanding how come just a minute ago their pc was fine, downloading
updates, and the next its crashed, stuck in a reboot loop, they have the
bsod, and cant boot from disk. and everyone that cant boot from disk such as
myself and a few people i know.. lost everything on their harddrive unless
their willing to pay 1200 or more, according to size of the harddrive..
From: Greg Russell on
In news:812DE1DC-7984-42DB-B6CF-E5C7893871B2(a)microsoft.com,
ANGELKISSES420 <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> because how could it be a hardware issue if it boots
> other disks besides xp?

A disk is hardware, so the logical conclusion would be that the disk has
failed in one capacity or another. Disks *do* fail, in case you haven't yet
heard of such a thing.

What freely-available tests have you done to verify the disk's integrity?
Being M$, of course there are any number that you can pay for.


From: Greg Russell on
I typed:
> In news:812DE1DC-7984-42DB-B6CF-E5C7893871B2(a)microsoft.com,
> ANGELKISSES420 <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>
>> because how could it be a hardware issue if it boots
>> other disks besides xp?
>
> A disk is hardware, so the logical conclusion would be that the disk
> has failed in one capacity or another. Disks *do* fail, in case you
> haven't yet heard of such a thing.
>
> What freely-available tests have you done to verify the disk's
> integrity? Being M$, of course there are any number that you can pay
> for.

I forgot to add that since you can successfully boot from other M$ disks,
why not jumper the troublesome one to "slave" and retrieve the data off it
that way, if possible.

Amazing it is that you would have attempted booting all those "other disks"
without doing the obvious slave jumpering, but at my age that requires cheap
imported reading glasses from the $1 store.




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