From: Greg Russell on
In news:6E37D440-5DA4-4B32-A70B-B91083DCD24B(a)microsoft.com,
ANGELKISSES420 <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> typed:

> No they couldnt boot from cd.. ive looked all over the net, theres
> more people who cant boot from cd like myself & a few other people i
> know after that update. we all have that issue, so were stuck in the
> same boat as the people with the netbooks.. because its basically
> like we have no cd drive to boot from.. Ive tried every cd drive i
> have in my house, which is 8. and no matter which one i do, it wont
> work, i tried without hard drive, and it wont work. but my pc works
> perfectly fine, with a diff hd in it..

So you say that you place "a diff hd in it" and it will then boot from the
CD?

A simple yes or no will suffice.




From: ANGELKISSES420 on
will you please stop posting that Massive amount? im trying to find out help.
since im not getting it from microsoft maybe ill get it from other users, so
please stop posting that i need to stop?

"Peter Foldes" wrote:

> From Mow Green
>
> <snip>
> New Patches Cause BSoD for Some Windows XP Users
> http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/new-patches-cause-bsod-for-some-windows-xp-users/
>
> BLUE SCREEN, UNABLE TO BOOT AFTER WINDOWS XP UPDATE TODAY
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/thread/73cea559-ebbd-4274-96bc-e292b69f2fd1/
> ============================================================================================
>
> A workaround to remove KB977165 and a method to mitigate the
> vulnerability this update addresses has been posted in the above Windows
> Update forum by Kevin Hau of Microsoft:
>
> <end snip>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "ANGELKISSES420" <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0435994E-3BE6-4BAC-B2D9-F6DD7AF18142(a)microsoft.com...
> > okay.. i found out.. the UPDATE ... fried my hard drive.. thats why i cant
> > boot from disk.. that sucks.. and microsoft wont pay for it... i tested a
> > different harddrive.. and it works.. because it doesnt have that update on
> > it.and that update isnt on it.. so it works.. im pissed..
> >
> > "ANGELKISSES420" wrote:
> >
> >> I WANTED TO TELL EVERYONE & ASK THEM PLEASE DO NOT DO THE NEW WINDOWS XP
> >> UPDATES!!! THEY ARE MORE HARM THAN GOOD.. THEY SAY ITS NEW SECURITY UPDATES..
> >> IM SORRY BUT NO. THEY DON'T FIX YOUR COMPUTER, THEY MESS IT UP.. AFTER
> >> DOWNLOADING, AND INSTALLING( I HAD TO SHUT DOWN, TO COMPLETE THE UPDATE) I
> >> DID... AND NOW MY COMPUTER WONT OPEN WINDOWS.. IT TAKES ME TO THE BLACK
> >> SCREEN, THAT SAYS "START IN SAFE MODE, lAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIG.. OR START
> >> NORMALLY" IVE TRIED EVERY OPTION, WINDOWS WONT OPEN.. THE LAST UPDATES MESS
> >> UP YOUR COMPUTER, IF YOU TRY TO OPEN WINDOWS, YOU CANT. AND EVEN IF YOU DO
> >> SET A RESTORE POINT.. IT WONT DO ANY GOOD.. BECAUSE YOU WONT EVEN GET TO GO
> >> BACK TO THAT RESTORE POINT. ALL YOU'LL SEE IS THAT LITTLE BLACKSCREEN. NO
> >> MATTER WHAT YOU DO.. THEN YOULL BE SITTING HERE ON THE PHONE WITH MICROSOFT
> >> FOR 5 HRS:) AND NOTHING WILL COME FROM THAT, YOU WILL HAVE LOST ALL YOUR
> >> INFORMATION, AND POSSIBLY FRYED YOUR HARDDRIVE.. SO FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHINING
> >> THAT THEIR UPDATES WONT INSTALL.. DONT WHINE. YOURE ONE OF THE LUCKY ONES..
> >> EVERYONE IN MY TOWN THAT HAD WINDOWS XP.. THEIR COMPUTER HAS CRASHED AFTER
> >> THE UPDATE.. SO FEEL LUCKY!!!! AND PLEASE.. DO NOT DOWNLOAD OR INSTALL THE
> >> UPDATES.. IF YOU DO.. AND IT MESSES UP YOUR COMPUTER. SORRY BUT I WARNED YOU.
>
> .
>
From: Daave on
You are making this very difficult; you *still* haven't answered about
the make and model of the PC!

Assuming you did configure the BIOS correctly, when you see this screen:

http://www.pcxmedics.com/blog/images/clean-install-xp-1.jpg

.... you need to press one of the keys on your keyboard in order to boot
off the CD!

If you did press any key and you wind up getting the BSOD, this means
you are *still* booting off the hard drive. Perhaps you need to use a
different keyboard.


ANGELKISSES420 wrote:
> i have configured my bios... same problem.. just like a couple other
> people i know. i did exactly what microsoft said to on the phone. and
> still the same problem!!!
>
> "Daave" wrote:
>
>> You are doing it incorrectly. From your description, you are still
>> booting off the hard drive!
>>
>> You need to configure your BIOS so that you boot off the CD:
>>
>> http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm
>>
>> What is the make and model of your PC? Certain PCs allow you to
>> enter a boot menu without needing to enter the BIOS. (For instance,
>> Dell PCs allow you to press F12 to accomplish this.)
>>
>>
>> ANGELKISSES420 wrote:
>>> i have a cd.. and it works when i install it on peoples pcs.. but
>>> when i try to boot from disc.. it wont work.. and ive tried to boot
>>> using both cd/dvd players in my computer.. it just wont let me. when
>>> i do try to boot up using the disk. i get the bsod. and that is my
>>> problem, microsoft said they could fix it for me since it was the
>>> update that caused it. but they cant fix it bc for some reason just
>>> like alot of other people i know, it wont allow them to boot from
>>> disc.. and my harddrive is inaccessible.. i can take my hd out.. put
>>> it in another pc.. and it wont work... and yet it worked perfectly
>>> fine until that update. im sorry but i dont believe it was
>>> coincedence, how could it be when 20+ people i know or have talked
>>> to are going through the same thing.. not to mention practically
>>> everyone who has xp is having the problem.. hence why its all over
>>> the news on the internet. heres another new NEWS link.
>>> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php/3864611/Patch-Tuesday-Update-Crashes-XP-Users-Parade.htm?comment=27390-0
>>>
>>> "Jose" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 11, 5:24 pm, ANGELKISSES420
>>>> <ANGELKISSES...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>> okay.. i found out.. the UPDATE ... fried my hard drive.. thats
>>>>> why i cant boot from disk.. that sucks.. and microsoft wont pay
>>>>> for it... i tested a different harddrive.. and it works.. because
>>>>> it doesnt have that update on it.and that update isnt on it.. so
>>>>> it works.. im pissed..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the update breaks your computer and if the link to the fix is
>>>> the solution (has anyone verified the fix on a broken system or is
>>>> it just a "given"), boot Recovery Console, uninstall the update
>>>> and be on your way. I have the update and no problems but maybe
>>>> we here are not a member of the non-trival group afflicted.
>>>>
>>>> If you do not have a bootable Windows CD to get into Recovery
>>>> Console, that that is not the fault of MS. If you didn't get an XP
>>>> CD with your system, you should get one when this is all over.
>>>>
>>>> If you need to boot Recovery Console, make a bootable CD, or if
>>>> your system has no CD drive, make a bootable USB device that has
>>>> RC on it.
>>>>
>>>> If you have no XP media and need to make a bootable Recovery
>>>> Console CD to uninstall the update, here are instructions to make
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic276527.html
>>>>
>>>> Making a bootable USB device varies, but your hardware vendor
>>>> probably has instructions. This is not a new idea.
>>>>
>>>> I would not implement KB307545 just for this piddly update - unless
>>>> uninstalling the single update (a few seconds or time) doesn't
>>>> work. That is just my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> If you have no way to boot your system from other than the HDD to
>>>> deal with such things, it would be a good idea to learn how or find
>>>> somebody that knows how to help/teach about the problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>
>>
>> .


From: MowGreen on
I know for a *fact* that MS Support engineers are actually driving to
some folks homes and picking up their computers in order to get to the
bottom of this issue
http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2010/02/12/update-restart-issues-after-installing-ms10-015.aspx

" In order to get the information we need to fully analyze the issue,
some of our support engineers have actually driven to customer locations
and picked up affected systems so we can get the needed crash data
directly and help inform our investigation. "

The issue is NOT affecting the *vast majority* of XP Users but IS
affecting those whose systems already *have malware present*.

Specifically, it's a variant of this malware that contains a rootkit:

Win32/Alureon
http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?name=Win32%2fAlureon

http://www.prevx.com/blog/139/Tdss-rootkit-silently-owns-the-net.html

Read the Comments here:
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8209#comment


You're wasting your time posting warnings about the update,
"angelkisses420". You should contact MS again and request on site
assistance.



MowGreen
================
*- 343 -* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================

banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked



ANGELKISSES420 wrote:
> will you please stop posting that Massive amount? im trying to find out help.
> since im not getting it from microsoft maybe ill get it from other users, so
> please stop posting that i need to stop?
>
From: ANGELKISSES420 on
i have a Emachine W3502 Desktop Pc. Running Windows Xp Professional. Like i
said, ive done all that, and i still cant boot from disk. when i try, it
gives me BLUE SCREEN

"Daave" wrote:

> You are making this very difficult; you *still* haven't answered about
> the make and model of the PC!
>
> Assuming you did configure the BIOS correctly, when you see this screen:
>
> http://www.pcxmedics.com/blog/images/clean-install-xp-1.jpg
>
> .... you need to press one of the keys on your keyboard in order to boot
> off the CD!
>
> If you did press any key and you wind up getting the BSOD, this means
> you are *still* booting off the hard drive. Perhaps you need to use a
> different keyboard.
>
>
> ANGELKISSES420 wrote:
> > i have configured my bios... same problem.. just like a couple other
> > people i know. i did exactly what microsoft said to on the phone. and
> > still the same problem!!!
> >
> > "Daave" wrote:
> >
> >> You are doing it incorrectly. From your description, you are still
> >> booting off the hard drive!
> >>
> >> You need to configure your BIOS so that you boot off the CD:
> >>
> >> http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm
> >>
> >> What is the make and model of your PC? Certain PCs allow you to
> >> enter a boot menu without needing to enter the BIOS. (For instance,
> >> Dell PCs allow you to press F12 to accomplish this.)
> >>
> >>
> >> ANGELKISSES420 wrote:
> >>> i have a cd.. and it works when i install it on peoples pcs.. but
> >>> when i try to boot from disc.. it wont work.. and ive tried to boot
> >>> using both cd/dvd players in my computer.. it just wont let me. when
> >>> i do try to boot up using the disk. i get the bsod. and that is my
> >>> problem, microsoft said they could fix it for me since it was the
> >>> update that caused it. but they cant fix it bc for some reason just
> >>> like alot of other people i know, it wont allow them to boot from
> >>> disc.. and my harddrive is inaccessible.. i can take my hd out.. put
> >>> it in another pc.. and it wont work... and yet it worked perfectly
> >>> fine until that update. im sorry but i dont believe it was
> >>> coincedence, how could it be when 20+ people i know or have talked
> >>> to are going through the same thing.. not to mention practically
> >>> everyone who has xp is having the problem.. hence why its all over
> >>> the news on the internet. heres another new NEWS link.
> >>> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php/3864611/Patch-Tuesday-Update-Crashes-XP-Users-Parade.htm?comment=27390-0
> >>>
> >>> "Jose" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 11, 5:24 pm, ANGELKISSES420
> >>>> <ANGELKISSES...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>> okay.. i found out.. the UPDATE ... fried my hard drive.. thats
> >>>>> why i cant boot from disk.. that sucks.. and microsoft wont pay
> >>>>> for it... i tested a different harddrive.. and it works.. because
> >>>>> it doesnt have that update on it.and that update isnt on it.. so
> >>>>> it works.. im pissed..
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If the update breaks your computer and if the link to the fix is
> >>>> the solution (has anyone verified the fix on a broken system or is
> >>>> it just a "given"), boot Recovery Console, uninstall the update
> >>>> and be on your way. I have the update and no problems but maybe
> >>>> we here are not a member of the non-trival group afflicted.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you do not have a bootable Windows CD to get into Recovery
> >>>> Console, that that is not the fault of MS. If you didn't get an XP
> >>>> CD with your system, you should get one when this is all over.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you need to boot Recovery Console, make a bootable CD, or if
> >>>> your system has no CD drive, make a bootable USB device that has
> >>>> RC on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have no XP media and need to make a bootable Recovery
> >>>> Console CD to uninstall the update, here are instructions to make
> >>>> one.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic276527.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Making a bootable USB device varies, but your hardware vendor
> >>>> probably has instructions. This is not a new idea.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would not implement KB307545 just for this piddly update - unless
> >>>> uninstalling the single update (a few seconds or time) doesn't
> >>>> work. That is just my opinion.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have no way to boot your system from other than the HDD to
> >>>> deal with such things, it would be a good idea to learn how or find
> >>>> somebody that knows how to help/teach about the problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> .
> >>
> >>
> >> .
>
>
> .
>
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