From: ANGELKISSES420 on
Yes.

"Greg Russell" wrote:

> In news:6E37D440-5DA4-4B32-A70B-B91083DCD24B(a)microsoft.com,
> ANGELKISSES420 <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> typed:
>
> > No they couldnt boot from cd.. ive looked all over the net, theres
> > more people who cant boot from cd like myself & a few other people i
> > know after that update. we all have that issue, so were stuck in the
> > same boat as the people with the netbooks.. because its basically
> > like we have no cd drive to boot from.. Ive tried every cd drive i
> > have in my house, which is 8. and no matter which one i do, it wont
> > work, i tried without hard drive, and it wont work. but my pc works
> > perfectly fine, with a diff hd in it..
>
> So you say that you place "a diff hd in it" and it will then boot from the
> CD?
>
> A simple yes or no will suffice.
>
>
>
>
> .
>
From: ANGELKISSES420 on
i do not have malware on my computer. Im a programs manager for a company, i
deal with the program aspect, and ive never had any problems with my
computer, i take really good care of it, i run a virus scan a couple times a
day, and i assure you, that i did not have any viruses at least until i did
the windows update, because before i did the update i scanned and everything
was good. and now since the update i can not open windows, im stuck at the
safe mode screen, which never ends and my pc keeps restarting, and i cant
boot from disk, when i do i get the bsod. with a long error message.

"MowGreen" wrote:

> I know for a *fact* that MS Support engineers are actually driving to
> some folks homes and picking up their computers in order to get to the
> bottom of this issue
> http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2010/02/12/update-restart-issues-after-installing-ms10-015.aspx
>
> " In order to get the information we need to fully analyze the issue,
> some of our support engineers have actually driven to customer locations
> and picked up affected systems so we can get the needed crash data
> directly and help inform our investigation. "
>
> The issue is NOT affecting the *vast majority* of XP Users but IS
> affecting those whose systems already *have malware present*.
>
> Specifically, it's a variant of this malware that contains a rootkit:
>
> Win32/Alureon
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?name=Win32%2fAlureon
>
> http://www.prevx.com/blog/139/Tdss-rootkit-silently-owns-the-net.html
>
> Read the Comments here:
> http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8209#comment
>
>
> You're wasting your time posting warnings about the update,
> "angelkisses420". You should contact MS again and request on site
> assistance.
>
>
>
> MowGreen
> ================
> *- 343 -* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ================
>
> banthecheck.com
> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
>
>
>
> ANGELKISSES420 wrote:
> > will you please stop posting that Massive amount? im trying to find out help.
> > since im not getting it from microsoft maybe ill get it from other users, so
> > please stop posting that i need to stop?
> >
> .
>
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on
You are a Programs Manager?
Have you talked to your IT person on how to set up your PC
to Boot from a CD?
Maybe he can help?
Russ

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"ANGELKISSES420" <ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:810D75D3-3E6C-4096-819B-3A525CD54DB6(a)microsoft.com...
> i do not have malware on my computer. Im a programs manager for a company,
> i
> deal with the program aspect, and ive never had any problems with my
> computer, i take really good care of it, i run a virus scan a couple times
> a
> day, and i assure you, that i did not have any viruses at least until i
> did
> the windows update, because before i did the update i scanned and
> everything
> was good. and now since the update i can not open windows, im stuck at the
> safe mode screen, which never ends and my pc keeps restarting, and i cant
> boot from disk, when i do i get the bsod. with a long error message.
>
> "MowGreen" wrote:
>
>> I know for a *fact* that MS Support engineers are actually driving to
>> some folks homes and picking up their computers in order to get to the
>> bottom of this issue
>> http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2010/02/12/update-restart-issues-after-installing-ms10-015.aspx
>>
>> " In order to get the information we need to fully analyze the issue,
>> some of our support engineers have actually driven to customer locations
>> and picked up affected systems so we can get the needed crash data
>> directly and help inform our investigation. "
>>
>> The issue is NOT affecting the *vast majority* of XP Users but IS
>> affecting those whose systems already *have malware present*.
>>
>> Specifically, it's a variant of this malware that contains a rootkit:
>>
>> Win32/Alureon
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?name=Win32%2fAlureon
>>
>> http://www.prevx.com/blog/139/Tdss-rootkit-silently-owns-the-net.html
>>
>> Read the Comments here:
>> http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8209#comment
>>
>>
>> You're wasting your time posting warnings about the update,
>> "angelkisses420". You should contact MS again and request on site
>> assistance.
>>
>>
>>
>> MowGreen
>> ================
>> *- 343 -* FDNY
>> Never Forgotten
>> ================
>>
>> banthecheck.com
>> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
>>
>>
>>
>> ANGELKISSES420 wrote:
>> > will you please stop posting that Massive amount? im trying to find out
>> > help.
>> > since im not getting it from microsoft maybe ill get it from other
>> > users, so
>> > please stop posting that i need to stop?
>> >
>> .
>>
From: MowGreen on
Will you explain to her that rootkits can not be detected by routine
antivirus scans, Russ ?

The affected HD will not allow the CD player to load Windows.
A new HD does because it does NOT have the rootkit present whose
"functionality" was crippled by KB977165, thus making booting from CD
*inoperative*.

That's a pretty clear indication that a rootkit is present on the dead
HD and explains why the CD player would not load Windows after the
update was applied.

I'm done trying to convince her.

https://consumersecuritysupport.microsoft.com/default.aspx?productKey=pcsafetymalware&ct=phonets&supportLinkphonets=Phone


MowGreen
================
* -343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
================

banthecheck.com
"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked



Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote:
> You are a Programs Manager?
> Have you talked to your IT person on how to set up your PC
> to Boot from a CD?
> Maybe he can help?
> Russ
>
From: Ken Blake, MVP on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:25:01 -0800, ANGELKISSES420
<ANGELKISSES420(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> i do not have malware on my computer. Im a programs manager for a company, i
> deal with the program aspect, and ive never had any problems with my
> computer, i take really good care of it, i run a virus scan a couple times a
> day, and i assure you, that i did not have any viruses at least until i did
> the windows update, because before i did the update i scanned and everything
> was good. and now since the update i can not open windows, im stuck at the
> safe mode screen, which never ends and my pc keeps restarting, and i cant
> boot from disk, when i do i get the bsod. with a long error message.


It is *never* possible to be sure you are not infected with malware,
for the following reasons:

1. Some anti-virus programs are much better than others.

2. No anti-virus program is perfect.

3. There are new viruses all the time, and you are always vulnerable
to viruses that hit the field *after* you last did an update to your
anti-virus program. The anti-virus programs are always a step behind
the latest new viruses.

4. Some types of viruses (most rootkits) aren't caught by any of the
standard anti-virus programs.

Moreover, you say you run an anti-virus program, but you say nothing
about any programs that detect other types of malware, such as
spyware.


> "MowGreen" wrote:
>
> > I know for a *fact* that MS Support engineers are actually driving to
> > some folks homes and picking up their computers in order to get to the
> > bottom of this issue
> > http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2010/02/12/update-restart-issues-after-installing-ms10-015.aspx
> >
> > " In order to get the information we need to fully analyze the issue,
> > some of our support engineers have actually driven to customer locations
> > and picked up affected systems so we can get the needed crash data
> > directly and help inform our investigation. "
> >
> > The issue is NOT affecting the *vast majority* of XP Users but IS
> > affecting those whose systems already *have malware present*.
> >
> > Specifically, it's a variant of this malware that contains a rootkit:
> >
> > Win32/Alureon
> > http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal/Threat/Encyclopedia/Entry.aspx?name=Win32%2fAlureon
> >
> > http://www.prevx.com/blog/139/Tdss-rootkit-silently-owns-the-net.html
> >
> > Read the Comments here:
> > http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8209#comment
> >
> >
> > You're wasting your time posting warnings about the update,
> > "angelkisses420". You should contact MS again and request on site
> > assistance.
> >
> >
> >
> > MowGreen
> > ================
> > *- 343 -* FDNY
> > Never Forgotten
> > ================
> >
> > banthecheck.com
> > "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked
> >
> >
> >
> > ANGELKISSES420 wrote:
> > > will you please stop posting that Massive amount? im trying to find out help.
> > > since im not getting it from microsoft maybe ill get it from other users, so
> > > please stop posting that i need to stop?
> > >
> > .
> >

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