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From: Al Dunbar on 21 Aug 2010 01:13 <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message news:up0WqKOQLHA.2064(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > On 8/17/2010 9:46 AM, Al Dunbar wrote: >> >> >> "Al Dunbar" <alandrub(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OY3$hIXPLHA.2100(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> >>> >>> <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >>> news:#S#OXPPPLHA.5076(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> On 8/15/2010 8:40 AM, Al Dunbar wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:OinB6AEPLHA.2100(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:#1xLGVDPLHA.5576(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> OK,I've been gone for 3 days, and apparently gotten over the "local >>>>>>> disk" problem. I have Help file download with Help open. If I print >>>>>>> all of VBScript, how many pages am I going to get? 400? 20? Yikes, I >>>>>>> see navigation to web site was canceled. >>>>>> >>>>>> You don't print out anything. Just the the help file as it is >>>>>> intended: As an on-scrreen look-up tool. >>>>> >>>>> Some people learn more easily from the printed word. If that is the >>>>> case >>>>> for the OP, I would recommend he purchase a book rather than try to >>>>> print out any material designed for on-line access. Wrox Press >>>>> carries a >>>>> few that make reasonably good references. Assuming these are still in >>>>> print... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /Al >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Odd though that it has a Print menu. Yes,I just discovered Wrox and >>>> bought a used VBS book harking back to 1999. I doubt much has changed. >>> >>> Nothing substantive has changed in VBScript, including some of the >>> known bugs. WSH, on the other hand, has gone through a couple of minor >>> version changes since then. Most of these were associated with the >>> introduction of new versions of Windows. >> >> Oops, forgot to mention: it's not the help file that has the print menu, >> but the help application. But even if it did, I suspect that the >> expectation would be for the odd person print out a page or two for >> reference, not the entire thing as a book. Since its structure is >> hyperlinked, there doesn't seem to be a simple way to organize it into a >> complete reference without doing a lot of work. Better to do the work to >> look things up as needed, and use the VBS > > Got side tracked with interesting results. I did buy a used VBS book, > circa 1999. It appears VBS is really for web apps. No, that is only one of its uses. > I couldn't really find out one creates a file like abc.vbs that has > pure VBS code in it w/o html. Easy. But you can put ONLY pure VBS code in a .vbs file not HTML: 1. create a file called HW.vbs 2. insert eh following pure VBS code in it: msgbox "hello world" 3. double-click the file in windows explorer. > Above somewhere, someone brought wscript.exe (and another exe) wscript.exe and cscript.exe are both standard components in windows. They implement WSH (Windows Script Host), which can execute "pure" vbscript code in a .vbs file, "pure" jscript code in a .js file, or WSH scripts in .wsf files (which contain vbscript and/or jscript code along with WSH-specific XML code. > to my attention. I'll look again at was said, but I think to execute a > abc.vbs file, I'd have to get into command code enter wscript.exe abc.vbs. No. You can double-click a .vbs file, or execute it either directly, or indirectly by running cscript or wscript from any executable or script capable of running a program, and passing the name of the .vbs file as a parameter. > If it turns out I can execute a abc.vbs file, then my next question is can > I execute it from JavaScript. How are you running your JavaScript? If you are running it embedded in a web page, you will face the same security restrictions as when you try to run an executable. > As it turns out, using vbs is the wrong way for me to go, but I'm still > curious. The right way is Visual Basic. By almost luck, when a friend > moved, he gave me two VB 5 books, and the compiler (Interpreter?) VB may or may not be your best option, but version 5? > Why VB. I'm using a scientific app that allows one to extend facilities of > the app by executing vbs files from it (I guess that answers my exe > question from above.) The user invokes a RunVBScript command. The app has > about 20 commands, and they are all there to provide some modicum of > ability to run other apps that control h/w. As it turns out, that app is > pretty limited, and one can write stand-alone VG programs with a solid GUI > i/f (allows pushbuttons, scrolls, text entry, etc., that will i/f with the > other program the app works with. No need to even run the app. Just use > VB. > > Still curious about VBS. My guess is that it is nowhere as powerful as > using VB, but isn't really used for of with html. VBScript is a scripting language, VB is a programming language. If by "power" you mean number crunching capability, you are correct. But there are some applications (other than those embedded in html) for which it is a better choice than VB. For one thing, it is generally available on all current versions of windows. /Al
From: wolf_tracks on 21 Aug 2010 13:48 On 8/20/2010 10:13 PM, Al Dunbar wrote: > > > <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message > news:up0WqKOQLHA.2064(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> On 8/17/2010 9:46 AM, Al Dunbar wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Al Dunbar" <alandrub(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:OY3$hIXPLHA.2100(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> >>>> <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >>>> news:#S#OXPPPLHA.5076(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> On 8/15/2010 8:40 AM, Al Dunbar wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:OinB6AEPLHA.2100(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:#1xLGVDPLHA.5576(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> OK,I've been gone for 3 days, and apparently gotten over the "local >>>>>>>> disk" problem. I have Help file download with Help open. If I print >>>>>>>> all of VBScript, how many pages am I going to get? 400? 20? >>>>>>>> Yikes, I >>>>>>>> see navigation to web site was canceled. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You don't print out anything. Just the the help file as it is >>>>>>> intended: As an on-scrreen look-up tool. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some people learn more easily from the printed word. If that is the >>>>>> case >>>>>> for the OP, I would recommend he purchase a book rather than try to >>>>>> print out any material designed for on-line access. Wrox Press >>>>>> carries a >>>>>> few that make reasonably good references. Assuming these are still in >>>>>> print... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> /Al >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Odd though that it has a Print menu. Yes,I just discovered Wrox and >>>>> bought a used VBS book harking back to 1999. I doubt much has changed. >>>> >>>> Nothing substantive has changed in VBScript, including some of the >>>> known bugs. WSH, on the other hand, has gone through a couple of minor >>>> version changes since then. Most of these were associated with the >>>> introduction of new versions of Windows. >>> >>> Oops, forgot to mention: it's not the help file that has the print menu, >>> but the help application. But even if it did, I suspect that the >>> expectation would be for the odd person print out a page or two for >>> reference, not the entire thing as a book. Since its structure is >>> hyperlinked, there doesn't seem to be a simple way to organize it into a >>> complete reference without doing a lot of work. Better to do the work to >>> look things up as needed, and use the VBS >> >> Got side tracked with interesting results. I did buy a used VBS book, >> circa 1999. It appears VBS is really for web apps. > > No, that is only one of its uses. Yes, as I mentioned below about the app executing the command RunVBScript. > >> I couldn't really find out one creates a file like abc.vbs that has >> pure VBS code in it w/o html. > > Easy. But you can put ONLY pure VBS code in a .vbs file not HTML: > > 1. create a file called HW.vbs > 2. insert the following pure VBS code in it: > msgbox "hello world" > 3. double-click the file in windows explorer. > I tried that in some other fashion, probably through RunVBScript, and it worked. >> Above somewhere, someone brought wscript.exe (and another exe) > > wscript.exe and cscript.exe are both standard components in windows. > They implement WSH (Windows Script Host), which can execute "pure" wscript is for WHS? csript is for ? > vbscript code in a .vbs file, "pure" jscript code in a .js file, or WSH > scripts in .wsf files (which contain vbscript and/or jscript code along > with WSH-specific XML code. Isn't there a JavaScript and a jscript. Jscript a MS version of JavaScript? > >> to my attention. I'll look again at was said, but I think to execute a >> abc.vbs file, I'd have to get into command code enter wscript.exe >> abc.vbs. > > No. You can double-click a .vbs file, or execute it either directly, or > indirectly by running cscript or wscript from any executable or script > capable of running a program, and passing the name of the .vbs file as a > parameter. Yep, my helloword.vbs works double-click too. > >> If it turns out I can execute a abc.vbs file, then my next question is >> can I execute it from JavaScript. > > How are you running your JavaScript? If you are running it embedded in a > web page, you will face the same security restrictions as when you try > to run an executable. > >> As it turns out, using vbs is the wrong way for me to go, but I'm >> still curious. The right way is Visual Basic. By almost luck, when a >> friend moved, he gave me two VB 5 books, and the compiler (Interpreter?) > > VB may or may not be your best option, but version 5? Fine by me. I'm very sure it will for the app need mentioned below. > >> Why VB. I'm using a scientific app that allows one to extend >> facilities of the app by executing vbs files from it (I guess that >> answers my exe question from above.) The user invokes a RunVBScript >> command. The app has about 20 commands, and they are all there to >> provide some modicum of ability to run other apps that control h/w. As >> it turns out, that app is pretty limited, and one can write >> stand-alone VG programs with a solid GUI i/f (allows pushbuttons, >> scrolls, text entry, etc., that will i/f with the other program the >> app works with. No need to even run the app. Just use VB. >> >> Still curious about VBS. My guess is that it is nowhere as powerful as >> using VB, but isn't really used for of with html. > > VBScript is a scripting language, VB is a programming language. If by scripting vs language. Viva la difference? Interpreter vs compiler? > "power" you mean number crunching capability, you are correct. But there > are some applications (other than those embedded in html) for which it > is a better choice than VB. For one thing, it is generally available on > all current versions of windows. > > /Al > > -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39� 15' 7" N, 121� 2' 32" W, 2700 feet Solid waste produced to generate electricity per person over a lifetime: Nuclear power -- 2 pounds in a coke can Fossil (coal) fuel -- 68.5 tons in six 12-ton RR cars -- Power to Save the World, Gwyneth Cravens Web Page: <www.speckledwithstars.net/>
From: Al Dunbar on 24 Aug 2010 20:30 <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message news:u9MjYkVQLHA.4988(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > On 8/20/2010 10:13 PM, Al Dunbar wrote: >> >> >> <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:up0WqKOQLHA.2064(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> On 8/17/2010 9:46 AM, Al Dunbar wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Al Dunbar" <alandrub(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:OY3$hIXPLHA.2100(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:#S#OXPPPLHA.5076(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>>> On 8/15/2010 8:40 AM, Al Dunbar wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Pegasus [MVP]" <news(a)microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:OinB6AEPLHA.2100(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <wolf_tracks(a)invalid.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:#1xLGVDPLHA.5576(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> OK,I've been gone for 3 days, and apparently gotten over the >>>>>>>>> "local >>>>>>>>> disk" problem. I have Help file download with Help open. If I >>>>>>>>> all of VBScript, how many pages am I going to get? 400? 20? >>>>>>>>> Yikes, I >>>>>>>>> see navigation to web site was canceled. <snip> >>> Above somewhere, someone brought wscript.exe (and another exe) >> >> wscript.exe and cscript.exe are both standard components in windows. >> They implement WSH (Windows Script Host), which can execute "pure" > wscript is for WHS? csript is for ? >> vbscript code in a .vbs file, "pure" jscript code in a .js file, or WSH >> scripts in .wsf files (which contain vbscript and/or jscript code along >> with WSH-specific XML code. > Isn't there a JavaScript and a jscript. Jscript a MS version of > JavaScript? Yes, JScript is very much like a version of JavaScript. I have precious little experience with JScript and absolutely none with JavaScript, so ignore anything else I might say about them ;-) >>> Why VB. I'm using a scientific app that allows one to extend >>> facilities of the app by executing vbs files from it (I guess that >>> answers my exe question from above.) The user invokes a RunVBScript >>> command. The app has about 20 commands, and they are all there to >>> provide some modicum of ability to run other apps that control h/w. As >>> it turns out, that app is pretty limited, and one can write >>> stand-alone VG programs with a solid GUI i/f (allows pushbuttons, >>> scrolls, text entry, etc., that will i/f with the other program the >>> app works with. No need to even run the app. Just use VB. >>> >>> Still curious about VBS. My guess is that it is nowhere as powerful as >>> using VB, but isn't really used for of with html. >> >> VBScript is a scripting language, VB is a programming language. If by > scripting vs language. Viva la difference? Interpreter vs compiler? Sort of. Ask ten experts and you will get ten answers. All different. And they will nitpick each other's opinions. /Al
From: Evertjan. on 25 Aug 2010 03:14 Al Dunbar wrote on 25 aug 2010 in microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript: >> Isn't there a JavaScript and a jscript. Jscript a MS version of >> JavaScript? > Yes, JScript is very much like a version of JavaScript. No, it just IS a version of Javascript. The "sort of official" name of Jacascript being ECMA-script. -- Evertjan. The Netherlands. (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
From: Al Dunbar on 25 Aug 2010 20:07
"Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort(a)interxnl.net> wrote in message news:Xns9DDF5DF1738D7eejj99(a)194.109.133.242... > Al Dunbar wrote on 25 aug 2010 in microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript: > >>> Isn't there a JavaScript and a jscript. Jscript a MS version of >>> JavaScript? > >> Yes, JScript is very much like a version of JavaScript. > > No, it just IS a version of Javascript. > > The "sort of official" name of Jacascript being ECMA-script. What you say is very much like the truth. ;-) /Al |