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From: Geoff Schaller on 24 May 2010 19:53 Marc, You clearly have no experience with C#/VB and Visual Studio. Geoff "Marc Verkade [Marti]" <marcatm(a)rti.nl> wrote in message news:4bfb03ca$0$781$58c7af7e(a)news.kabelfoon.nl: > Hey, > > > > It has no future > > Wrong > > > It has no user base > > Wrong > 0 > > > It has basically no sample base you can count on > > Partly wrong > > > It is limited compared to C# and VB > > Partly wrong > > > Its integration with VS is limited > > Wrong > > > It evolves only at a glacial pace > > ? No idea what you mean here > > > It has a developer team of precisely one > > Wrong > > regards, Marc > > > "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> schreef in bericht > news:MVCKn.26918$pv.18418(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > Vulcan???? Stable? I've seen isotopes of uranium more stable. > > > > It has no future > > It has no user base > > It has basically no sample base you can count on > > It is limited compared to C# and VB > > Its integration with VS is limited > > It evolves only at a glacial pace > > It has a developer team of precisely one > > > > But it does have a degree of VO compatibility so if that is your only > > measure then go for it. > > > > Geoff > > > > > > > > "richard.townsendrose" <richard.townsendrose(a)googlemail.com> wrote in > > message > > news:d2b7a423-1838-4a02-adff-0b4667c61fa1(a)m21g2000vbr.googlegroups.com: > > > > >> Marc > >> > >> once alwyn [a pragmatic engineer] decides to write a book, then this > >> says two very important things: > >> > >> a) vulcan is stable > >> b) it has future > >> > >> you have also confirmed that all the bits that one needs for a major > >> app now really do exist and rewally do work > >> > >> thanks for the update - please invite me to the next one, and alwyn, > >> can i please order the book ! I still occasionally refer to the VO > >> one ! > >> > >> richard > > >
From: Willie Moore on 24 May 2010 23:12 Geoff, I have commercial apps out in Vulcan and they are stable. I also have a web site that is built with asp.net calling my Vulcan business logic. Works just fine. I am fluent in c#, vb.net, and Vulcan. I use the right tool for the right project. BTW, none of my Vulcan apps use the VO compatible classes. I am straight Winforms and am now working with wpf. I have rightSLE running completely in Winforms and I am about 30% finished with the WPF version. The folks at DevShare got to see all 3 versions running. Regards, Willie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5142 (20100524) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: Geoff Schaller on 24 May 2010 23:35 Willie. I never said you can't make stable apps. I did also in Pascal, Clipper, VO 2.5 and so on. That isn't the point of the discussion, which was more over the development environment as a practical and commercial tool. How do you compare the one-man-band that takes years to deliver a box of 30 fixes (that then introduces 10 more bugs) with the juggernaut behind C# and VB? That is the issue at hand. That and the shrinking user base for VO/Vulcan. Geoff "Willie Moore" <williem(a)wmconsulting.com> wrote in message news:htff67$jue$1(a)speranza.aioe.org: > Geoff, > > I have commercial apps out in Vulcan and they are stable. I also have a > web site that is built with asp.net calling my Vulcan business logic. > Works just fine. > > I am fluent in c#, vb.net, and Vulcan. I use the right tool for the > right project. BTW, none of my Vulcan apps use the VO compatible > classes. I am straight Winforms and am now working with wpf. I have > rightSLE running completely in Winforms and I am about 30% finished with > the WPF version. The folks at DevShare got to see all 3 versions > running. > > Regards, > Willie > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5142 (20100524) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com
From: Nick Friend on 25 May 2010 04:03 Geoff, There wasn't actually any discussion going on, simply a number of people commenting on how we had a very productive and _positive_ time at DevShare. Nick On 25 May, 04:35, "Geoff Schaller" <geo...(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> wrote: > Willie. > > I never said you can't make stable apps. I did also in Pascal, Clipper, > VO 2.5 and so on. That isn't the point of the discussion, which was more > over the development environment as a practical and commercial tool. >
From: Geoff Schaller on 25 May 2010 05:50
Maybe there is something wrong with your news client. There are 7 messages ahead of this dealing directly with this discussion. "Nick Friend" <nicktekhne(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:0184c084-924f-49d8-8c16-e014e95e8560(a)o1g2000vbe.googlegroups.com: > Geoff, > > There wasn't actually any discussion going on, simply a number of > people commenting on how we had a very productive and _positive_ time > at DevShare. > > Nick > > On 25 May, 04:35, "Geoff Schaller" <geo...(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> > wrote: > > > Willie. > > > > I never said you can't make stable apps. I did also in Pascal, Clipper, > > VO 2.5 and so on. That isn't the point of the discussion, which was more > > over the development environment as a practical and commercial tool. > > |