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From: Jeff Strickland on 26 Nov 2009 16:34 "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message news:hemjid$dg6$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hemh7j$k13$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Why don't you just buy a USB hard drive. You can get 320G drives at >> WalMart for $70. >> >> Why would you transfer CDs to a HDD, that seems backwards. Normally you >> move stuff from the HDD to the CD to recover space. >> >> To answer your question, you would need an EX Connect for each drive that >> you wanted to be connected at the same time. If you could work with one >> drive then work with the other, you would only need one EZ Connect. >> >> For the price of an internal drive that you are planing to use externally >> and the EZ Connect, you can have a very nice external drive that will do >> the trick better and cleaner. The trouble with this strategy is that you >> won't have the EZ Connect for future projects. >> >> >> >> >> "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message >> news:hemdpj$bmg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> Patience for the newbee please. I finally am going to transfer all my >>> photographs and CDs to computer. Someone in this group mentioned the EZ >>> Connect and this seems like it would be a cheap alternative to buying >>> two 300-400GB external HD. I would buy two internal HDs for about $50 >>> each and use the EZ connect. My computer is older with a smaller HDs so >>> I was thinking photos & CDs would be stored externally and use a second >>> external HD to back it up. When I say external HD, I'm refereeing to >>> the internal drives via EZ Connect and they would not be mounted in the >>> computer. Would I need two EZ connects kits in order to use both drives >>> at the same time. Transfer everything to the first drive and then just >>> make a backup to the second. >>> Any other alternatives to my plan are welcome. If it matters, I'm using >>> XP-Pro and don't want to switch to Win7 until absolutely necessary. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Joe >>> > But then I would still need two USB drives. One for the data and one to > back it all up. The CDs are music CDs and I want to get rid of them after > I transfer them. I also want to eliminate about 10 photo albums but I > want to make sure everything is backed up. > Joe > Why do you need two? You can get 320G for $70, and I've seen terabyte drives for a hundred. With a USB-based drive, you can take your music on the road and play your stuff at your friend's house. I like the FreeAgent or Passport -- one is a Seagate and the other is Western Digital, both seem to be pretty robust, of these I like the FreeAgent better. My friend just bought a FreeAgent at WalMart. She got 320G for $65-ish. I'm not sure I carried the decimal point correctly, but if I did, a 320G drive will hold 500 CDs.
From: Paul on 26 Nov 2009 16:38 Joe J. wrote: > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hemh7j$k13$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Why don't you just buy a USB hard drive. You can get 320G drives at >> WalMart for $70. >> >> Why would you transfer CDs to a HDD, that seems backwards. Normally you >> move stuff from the HDD to the CD to recover space. >> >> To answer your question, you would need an EX Connect for each drive that >> you wanted to be connected at the same time. If you could work with one >> drive then work with the other, you would only need one EZ Connect. >> >> For the price of an internal drive that you are planing to use externally >> and the EZ Connect, you can have a very nice external drive that will do >> the trick better and cleaner. The trouble with this strategy is that you >> won't have the EZ Connect for future projects. >> >> "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message >> news:hemdpj$bmg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> Patience for the newbee please. I finally am going to transfer all my >>> photographs and CDs to computer. Someone in this group mentioned the EZ >>> Connect and this seems like it would be a cheap alternative to buying two >>> 300-400GB external HD. I would buy two internal HDs for about $50 each >>> and use the EZ connect. My computer is older with a smaller HDs so I was >>> thinking photos & CDs would be stored externally and use a second >>> external HD to back it up. When I say external HD, I'm refereeing to the >>> internal drives via EZ Connect and they would not be mounted in the >>> computer. Would I need two EZ connects kits in order to use both drives >>> at the same time. Transfer everything to the first drive and then just >>> make a backup to the second. >>> Any other alternatives to my plan are welcome. If it matters, I'm using >>> XP-Pro and don't want to switch to Win7 until absolutely necessary. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Joe >>> > But then I would still need two USB drives. One for the data and one to > back it all up. The CDs are music CDs and I want to get rid of them after I > transfer them. I also want to eliminate about 10 photo albums but I want to > make sure everything is backed up. > Joe > No matter what you buy, there is always the unreliability of electronic items to consider. If you read the reviews for some of the disks already housed in enclosures, some of those don't have a very good record. The same could be said for a raw hard drive, depending on how it was handled before it got to the end consumer. The pre-built disk+enclosure in the past, has had problems with heat. In particular, 3.5" drives without fans, seemed to have more problems than the 2.5" enclosed ones. The manufacturer responded by using aggressive spindown, as a bandaid solution. When the drive isn't being used, the 3.5" spins down soon after, which is supposed to keep the drive cool. This doesn't help though, if you're doing a backup at 5MB a second for 2 hours. Using one of these (USB to IDE/SATA) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200155 or a "toaster" (USB HDD dock) like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817707175 are other solutions. The "toaster" uses SATA disks, due to the connector on the SATA disk being designed for insertion like that. The ribbon cable connector would get mangled it they tried to build a toaster for it. Using a drive mechanism separate from an adapter gives you 1) Easy switching of drive mechanisms with adapters. You don't have to take apart an enclosure. That is a positive. You also get convection cooling, rather than a drive being sealed in what is usually a closed box. 2) The minus is, a separate adapter mechanism, provides less mechanical protection for the drive. The external enclosure provides some level of protection. Maybe you'd be less likely to tip it over while using it. If the drive is easily separable from the adapter, another small positive is you can insert the drive inside your computer, if the thing stops working. That would allow you to ascertain whether it is the adapter that broke, or the hard drive itself. To give an example, the enclosure maker Lacie had some products, where the enclosure power supply failed. Users didn't know it was just the power supply and not the drive itself. If the enclosure had been easy to take apart, they may have inserted the raw drive mechanism in their computer, for a check. I can see room for both solutions, and have bits and piece of junk lying around (enclosures and adapters). So I don't have a strong preference. Both have a place. What I won't be buying though, is something with bad reviews. (Always check the reviews...) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16822148356 Paul
From: Jeff Strickland on 26 Nov 2009 16:55 "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message news:hemdpj$bmg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Patience for the newbee please. I finally am going to transfer all my > photographs and CDs to computer. Someone in this group mentioned the EZ > Connect and this seems like it would be a cheap alternative to buying two > 300-400GB external HD. I would buy two internal HDs for about $50 each > and use the EZ connect. My computer is older with a smaller HDs so I was > thinking photos & CDs would be stored externally and use a second external > HD to back it up. When I say external HD, I'm refereeing to the internal > drives via EZ Connect and they would not be mounted in the computer. Would > I need two EZ connects kits in order to use both drives at the same time. > Transfer everything to the first drive and then just make a backup to the > second. > Any other alternatives to my plan are welcome. If it matters, I'm using > XP-Pro and don't want to switch to Win7 until absolutely necessary. > > Thanks, > Joe The EZ Connect will do the job, however inellegant it might be, but I use mine for diagnostic and recovery tasks. I think your project would be better served by the use of USB drives that are designed for the application you have in mind. Your proposed use of an unmounted internal drive as an extgernal drive is inherently risky, especially if your goal is to have a drive to hold music that you intend to listen to. Will your idea work? Yes, it will. But they actually make the proper drive that is encased and protected for precisely the use you intend, and is robust enough for what you are doing. I'd not leverage the EZ Connect in the manner you intend. It will work, that's for certain. But the exposed internal drive used externally is exposed unnecessarily to stuff that can short it out, and the cables needed by the EZ Connect will make using the internal drives externally a very clunky proposition. As a diagnostic and recovery tool, the EZ Connect is tough to beat, as a converter to make an internal drive work externally, it's probably not the right tool. As I write this post, I'm pulling files from a HDD that came out of a laptop where the Power Supply connection broke off. The internal drive is resting on the bench while I pull files. Since the drive is from a laptop, the EZ Connect can operate it from the power that comes out of the USB port on my computer, this removes the need for the EZ Connect's power supply to drive the HDD. The HDD has exposed circuits that would be damaged over time if the drive was used regularly to play music. I cannot recommend the use of the EZ Connect to make an internal drive operate externally for more than recovering files.
From: Joe J. on 26 Nov 2009 20:36 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hems96$cvl$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message > news:hemjid$dg6$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:hemh7j$k13$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> Why don't you just buy a USB hard drive. You can get 320G drives at >>> WalMart for $70. >>> >>> Why would you transfer CDs to a HDD, that seems backwards. Normally you >>> move stuff from the HDD to the CD to recover space. >>> >>> To answer your question, you would need an EX Connect for each drive >>> that you wanted to be connected at the same time. If you could work with >>> one drive then work with the other, you would only need one EZ Connect. >>> >>> For the price of an internal drive that you are planing to use >>> externally and the EZ Connect, you can have a very nice external drive >>> that will do the trick better and cleaner. The trouble with this >>> strategy is that you won't have the EZ Connect for future projects. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message >>> news:hemdpj$bmg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> Patience for the newbee please. I finally am going to transfer all my >>>> photographs and CDs to computer. Someone in this group mentioned the >>>> EZ Connect and this seems like it would be a cheap alternative to >>>> buying two 300-400GB external HD. I would buy two internal HDs for >>>> about $50 each and use the EZ connect. My computer is older with a >>>> smaller HDs so I was thinking photos & CDs would be stored externally >>>> and use a second external HD to back it up. When I say external HD, >>>> I'm refereeing to the internal drives via EZ Connect and they would not >>>> be mounted in the computer. Would I need two EZ connects kits in order >>>> to use both drives at the same time. Transfer everything to the first >>>> drive and then just make a backup to the second. >>>> Any other alternatives to my plan are welcome. If it matters, I'm >>>> using XP-Pro and don't want to switch to Win7 until absolutely >>>> necessary. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Joe >>>> >> But then I would still need two USB drives. One for the data and one to >> back it all up. The CDs are music CDs and I want to get rid of them >> after I transfer them. I also want to eliminate about 10 photo albums >> but I want to make sure everything is backed up. >> Joe >> > > Why do you need two? You can get 320G for $70, and I've seen terabyte > drives for a hundred. I need two so I have a backup for the first one. As I stated previously, the current HD is not big enough to hold everything. So if I transfer to the the new drive, I want to have a backup of all the info. > With a USB-based drive, you can take your music on the road and play your > stuff at your friend's house. I like the FreeAgent or Passport -- one is a > Seagate and the other is Western Digital, both seem to be pretty robust, > of these I like the FreeAgent better. > > My friend just bought a FreeAgent at WalMart. She got 320G for $65-ish. > > I'm not sure I carried the decimal point correctly, but if I did, a 320G > drive will hold 500 CDs. > > > >
From: - Bobb - on 27 Nov 2009 07:11
This weekend especially - check your local ads and you'll find very large USB drives for very short money. If you WANT to use 2 internal drives for redundancy, buy a USB case for the external drive. ( about $20) . I have one - works fine. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=USB+case+for+ide+drive "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hemtgu$qdk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Joe J." <joejak(a)prodigy.net> wrote in message > news:hemdpj$bmg$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Patience for the newbee please. I finally am going to transfer all my >> photographs and CDs to computer. Someone in this group mentioned the EZ >> Connect and this seems like it would be a cheap alternative to buying two >> 300-400GB external HD. I would buy two internal HDs for about $50 each >> and use the EZ connect. My computer is older with a smaller HDs so I was >> thinking photos & CDs would be stored externally and use a second >> external HD to back it up. When I say external HD, I'm refereeing to the >> internal drives via EZ Connect and they would not be mounted in the >> computer. Would I need two EZ connects kits in order to use both drives >> at the same time. Transfer everything to the first drive and then just >> make a backup to the second. >> Any other alternatives to my plan are welcome. If it matters, I'm using >> XP-Pro and don't want to switch to Win7 until absolutely necessary. >> >> Thanks, >> Joe > > The EZ Connect will do the job, however inellegant it might be, but I use > mine for diagnostic and recovery tasks. I think your project would be > better served by the use of USB drives that are designed for the > application you have in mind. > > Your proposed use of an unmounted internal drive as an extgernal drive is > inherently risky, especially if your goal is to have a drive to hold music > that you intend to listen to. > > Will your idea work? Yes, it will. > > But they actually make the proper drive that is encased and protected for > precisely the use you intend, and is robust enough for what you are doing. > > I'd not leverage the EZ Connect in the manner you intend. It will work, > that's for certain. But the exposed internal drive used externally is > exposed unnecessarily to stuff that can short it out, and the cables > needed by the EZ Connect will make using the internal drives externally a > very clunky proposition. > > As a diagnostic and recovery tool, the EZ Connect is tough to beat, as a > converter to make an internal drive work externally, it's probably not the > right tool. > > As I write this post, I'm pulling files from a HDD that came out of a > laptop where the Power Supply connection broke off. The internal drive is > resting on the bench while I pull files. Since the drive is from a laptop, > the EZ Connect can operate it from the power that comes out of the USB > port on my computer, this removes the need for the EZ Connect's power > supply to drive the HDD. The HDD has exposed circuits that would be > damaged over time if the drive was used regularly to play music. > > I cannot recommend the use of the EZ Connect to make an internal drive > operate externally for more than recovering files. > > > > > > > > > > |