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From: Halfix NB on 18 Jan 2010 18:34 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:7rjmubFbmqU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Halfix NB wrote >> Craig Welch <craig(a)pacific.net.sg> wrote >>> Halfix NB wrote >>>> Craig Welch <craig(a)pacific.net.sg> wrote >>>>> Halfix NB wrote > >>>>>> Handing out your IP number to a site of unknown origin could >>>>>> never be a good idea as far as security is concerned, regardless >>>>>> of how good your security software is. > >>>>> Even though you do it every single time you visit a website? > >>>>> EVERY SINGLE TIME. > >>>> Yes, but these are websites that I am choosing to visit. I'm >>>> talking about being forced to visit an unknown site in order to >>>> perform a required function such as remote desktop management. Are you >>>> saying this is a good approach to security? > >>> You're not being 'forced' to visit any unknown sites. Your mouse in >>> entirely under your control. > >> I am forced to visit sites of unknown operation if there is no other way >> to find out my external IP address. > > Nothing to stop you doing you own site if you are that paranoid. > > Or use your ISP's email service and work it out that way. > >>> 90% of the sites that I visit are 'unknown' in that I don't know who >>> owns them, or what might lurk behind them. Why should I care? And >>> there's nothing they can do with my IP address. > >> 90% of the sites you visit might be 'unknown', but that is your >> choice. It's your choice to put yourself at that risk. What if I >> don't want to put myself or a customer/client at this risk? > > Then you set up your own site, or use the ISP's email service. > >> Your IP address represents, at the very least, a computer currently in >> use which could potentially have weak security or other vulnerabilities, >> as opposed to an IP number that is not in use, or a computer that is not >> turned on. > > Yes, but if you are that mindlessly paranoid, you'd never use any web > site or email either, because both of those now the IP address too. > > Or ever connect to your ISP's service either. > >> The fact that your computer has visited one of those sites makes your IP >> address a lot more valuable to hackers etc. > > Not if you have adequately protect your system. > Are you saying security software is 100% safe?
From: Rod Speed on 18 Jan 2010 19:48 Halfix NB wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa(a)gmail.com> wrote >> Halfix NB wrote >>> Craig Welch <craig(a)pacific.net.sg> wrote >>>> Halfix NB wrote >>>>> Craig Welch <craig(a)pacific.net.sg> wrote >>>>>> Halfix NB wrote >>>>>>> Handing out your IP number to a site of unknown origin could >>>>>>> never be a good idea as far as security is concerned, regardless >>>>>>> of how good your security software is. >>>>>> Even though you do it every single time you visit a website? >>>>>> EVERY SINGLE TIME. >>>>> Yes, but these are websites that I am choosing to visit. I'm >>>>> talking about being forced to visit an unknown site in order to >>>>> perform a required function such as remote desktop management. Are you saying this is a good approach to security? >>>> You're not being 'forced' to visit any unknown sites. Your mouse in entirely under your control. >>> I am forced to visit sites of unknown operation if there is no >>> other way to find out my external IP address. >> Nothing to stop you doing you own site if you are that paranoid. >> Or use your ISP's email service and work it out that way. >>>> 90% of the sites that I visit are 'unknown' in that I don't know >>>> who owns them, or what might lurk behind them. Why should I care? >>>> And there's nothing they can do with my IP address. >>> 90% of the sites you visit might be 'unknown', but that is your >>> choice. It's your choice to put yourself at that risk. What if I >>> don't want to put myself or a customer/client at this risk? >> Then you set up your own site, or use the ISP's email service. >>> Your IP address represents, at the very least, a computer currently >>> in use which could potentially have weak security or other >>> vulnerabilities, as opposed to an IP number that is not in use, or >>> a computer that is not turned on. >> Yes, but if you are that mindlessly paranoid, you'd never use any web >> site or email either, because both of those now the IP address too. >> Or ever connect to your ISP's service either. >>> The fact that your computer has visited one of those sites makes your IP address a lot more valuable to hackers etc. >> Not if you have adequately protect your system. > Are you saying security software is 100% safe? No, I am saying that its safe enough for most of us to browse normal sites and that if you are so mindlessly parnoid about the sites that tell you what your IP is, you can always set up your own site and make it as safe as you like.
From: Frank Slootweg on 19 Jan 2010 08:27 Halfix NB <halifxnb(a)spamattack.comp> wrote: [...] > I take help when it is useful. And the only useful help has been from > Speed who has suggested that I have the lookup service on a website > that I control. And you can't - as was suggested - look at the configuration of your router, exactly why?
From: Rod Speed on 19 Jan 2010 14:07 Frank Slootweg wrote > Halfix NB <halifxnb(a)spamattack.comp> wrote >> I take help when it is useful. And the only useful help has been >> from Speed who has suggested that I have the lookup service on a >> website that I control. > And you can't - as was suggested - look at the configuration of your router, exactly why? Looks like he might well be trying to work out the IP of some of his customers so he can do maintenance etc on their systems, so the router will vary quite a bit and its easier to use a web site to get the IP instead.
From: Hugh Jeego on 19 Jan 2010 19:53
"Fred" <bluser(a)gaymail.com> wrote in message news:7rdmvrF9ciU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Halfix NB" <halifxnb(a)spamattack.comp> wrote in message > news:CRg4n.34$8x3.5(a)newsfe19.iad... >> What is the best way to find out the external IP address of a computer >> that is behind a router, modem, firewall, hub, etc... ? >> >> I know there are websites such as whatismyip.com, but is there some way >> to do this without hitting a website that I have no control over and >> don't know who runs it... etc. ? >> >> Do ISPs offer a service for finding out one's external ISP? If not, they >> should... > > You can open a command prompt > For Windows it's Start - Programs - Accessories - Command Prompt. > Then type > ipconfig /all > to display your network config > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb490921.aspx > > Doesn't tell you your IP address as assigned by your ISP. That tells you your static or DHCP assigned IP address done by your modem/router. |